i think i had a bladder or urinary infection: stinging,slightly cloudy smelly urine. started almost a week ago ... not too distracting, never went to Dr. was going away yesterday. Also had excruciating back pain, but in lower back, where I have chronic discomfort over past 15+yrs. In fact i called osteo/massage therapist for my usual help call which is about every 3 months or so - interestingly timed about 3-4 days pre-menstrual period, so I figured it was that. Tonight, I wake u with strong ache in back, higher than usual & on one side, like I ve been punched. Also shivering uncontrollably! it is chilly, but I couldn t type 15 min ago... I m hoping not a kidney infection & plan to go to Dr. first thing tomorrow Funny coincidences or possibly serious?