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Suggest Treatment For Dementia And Depression

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Posted on Fri, 2 Jan 2015
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Hello,

I am writing to you regarding potential conditions which may explain symptoms that I have observed over these 2 years.

She is a 42 year old woman who was born in the Philippines. She moved to NYC in 2000. English is her second language but she has very strong vocabulary skills.

During the time that I have known her, I have considered the following potential conditions:

- PTSD
- Mild Cognitive Impairment
- Adult ADHD
- Low grade depression

The symptoms that I have observed are:

- Nearly no recollection of childhood memories
> When I ask her a question about her childhood, she says, "I have to ask my sister."

- Social Anxiety
> She did not start dating until she was 37 years out.
> I have taken her out to meet colleagues. Quite often, she did not say one word the whole night.
> She has become much more outgoing interacting with my family, though.

- Short Attention span. More comprehension.
> Not so much lately, but we used to watch movies together and during a scene in the middle of the movie, she would point to the main character and ask what part that person plays.
> Because we have a communication difficulties, I have started to ask her to rephrase what I've said to ensure the intended message was received correctly, for the most part.
> My anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that:
>> She remembers 35% of content delivered in a two minute time span.
>> Her comprehension of the content delivered is around 20%.

- Mildly inappropriate responses to situations.
> As an example, I might be speaking of something very stressful for to me. If I try to put on a "brave" face with a little smile, she will react as if I was delivering good news.

- Flat Effect
> She rarely demonstrates an emotional response to situations that normally elicits emotions.
> it seems like she has a complete of empathy for me. But if I say anything about how that affects me, she is easily brought to tears. Not for me but because it affects her low self-esteem.

She has seen a Psychiatrist and a Neurologist:

Psychiatrist:
- The Psychiatrist diagnosed her as having some form of Depression and some form of AHD, without the hyperactivity.
> The Psychiatrist prescribed Prozac and Adderall for her. (She's been on this combination of medication.)
> I thought the choice of Prozac was a little odd. I think that SNRIs alleviate symptoms of Depression than SSRIs do.
> After she started taking the Adderall, I noticed an improvement in her focus. But by 8:00 PM, her focus became poor again.
>> That's when I found out that the doctor prescribed Adderall Quick Release, instead of Adderall Extended Release.
>> I asked her to ask her doctor to switch the Quick Release to Extended Release. However, my girlfriend only started taking the Extended Release yesterday.

Neurologist:
- The Neurologist thinks she has some type of Cognitive Impairment but he doesn't think it's degenerative. He said that it was most likely "chemical".
- She did not ask him what he meant by "chemical" so I contacted him to ask if he was speaking about neurotransmitters, specifically Norepinephrine. It's the only one that I know that could be associated with some of these types of symptoms.
- The Neurologist indicated he was speaking about Norepinephrine AND Serotonin.
- I know that SSRIs have a secondary affect of the levels of Norepinephrine but, to me, it was an additional indication that switching to an SNRI was warranted. However, the Psychiatrist wants to stick to the current "cocktail".

I am starting to find it more and more difficult to believe that she has been diagnosed as having three different disorders, instead of one disorder which could explain all of her observable symptoms.

For full disclosure, over ten years ago I was diagnosed has having Bipolar Type 1 Disorder. I am still in the recovery phase from a Panic Disorder episode that started in March of this year.

I am very concerned that when I asked her how she thinks she has been doing the last two months, she said she felt she was doing much better. However, I feel as if things have gotten far, far worse.

I don't think she is receive the proper diagnosis or treatment plans but I am not a doctor and I do not know where to turn next.

She asked me to call my Father's Neurologist at XXXXXXX Universities Neurological Institute for Aging, Memory and Behavioral Disorders.

The stress that I've been experiencing trying to live together has been creating a lot of mood lability for me, which I have not been able to manage effectively these last three months. But, today, instead of feeling stressed, angry and frustrated, I just became completely anxious that she might have a significant degenerative disorder.

Any feedback you could provide would be truly appreciated.

Sincerely,
XXXX

PS. I've try to describe things to which I am best abled. So please forgive some outright misstatements I may have made in this note.
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Answered by Dr. Geldon Fejzo (36 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
at this point an MRI is essential

Detailed Answer:
Hello, I have been through your question and understand your concern.

I have also seen the previous consults and I think the answers are very good and reasonable.

Both dementia and depression can explain the symptoms and I would recommend the same treatment.

At this point it is very important to understand if this condition is progressive or not. MRI would tell a lot of information especially regarding dementia which has several type, with the vascular type being the most probable at this age.

Once you rule out this eventuality you can focus on depression with the appropriate treatment.

A third probability is Autism spectrum disorder but less likely than the other two, but still needs a consideration.

Hope this answers your question, please feel free for further questions.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Suggest Treatment For Dementia And Depression

Brief Answer: at this point an MRI is essential Detailed Answer: Hello, I have been through your question and understand your concern. I have also seen the previous consults and I think the answers are very good and reasonable. Both dementia and depression can explain the symptoms and I would recommend the same treatment. At this point it is very important to understand if this condition is progressive or not. MRI would tell a lot of information especially regarding dementia which has several type, with the vascular type being the most probable at this age. Once you rule out this eventuality you can focus on depression with the appropriate treatment. A third probability is Autism spectrum disorder but less likely than the other two, but still needs a consideration. Hope this answers your question, please feel free for further questions.