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Is Alcoholic Neuropathy Reversible?

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Posted on Sat, 18 Jun 2016
Question: if you have alcoholic neuropathy that has stopped you be XXXXXXX if I have stopped drinking can I recover and eventually stand up and walk again. i am on vitamins in hospital by a drip and i am never drinking alcohol again. the numbness does seem to be getting better but i cant stand legs just weak and collapse
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (48 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Alcoholic Neuropathy will improve after proper treatment

Detailed Answer:
Hi,

Welcome to HealthCareMagic.com I am Dr.J XXXXXXX Anto Bruno Mascarenhas, and I am here to help you. I have read your question with care and understand your concerns.  

I am glad that you are determined to modify your life style.

With regard to diseases which are caused by life style, the best factor deciding improvement is the determination of the patient in changing his life style

Since you are determined, you can consider yourself as having solved the major part of treatment.

Please follow the instructions of the doctors and you will be back to your normal walking and other activities in few months

Hope you found the answer helpful.

If you need any clarification / have doubts / have additional questions / have follow up questions, then please do not hesitate in asking again. I will be happy to answer your questions.

Best Wishes for Speedy Recovery
Let me know if I can assist you further.
Take care.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Sonia Raina
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (8 hours later)
mri scan has shown disc bulge could this be the cause of problems dad has with his mobility
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (40 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Please upload the MRI Report

Detailed Answer:
Hi,

Please be kind enough to upload the full MRI Report

I will go through the report and will tell whether Disc Bulge is causing some problems

Best Wishes for Speedy Recovery
Take care.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (42 minutes later)
i dont have the mri report we are waiting for spinal team x
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (8 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
I will wait for the report

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
I will wait for the report
Best Wishes for Speedy Recovery
Take care.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (4 hours later)
if dad had neuropathy would it show on mri scan
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (6 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Neuropathy will be seen in Nerve Conduction Studies

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Nerve Conduction Studies will reveal Neuropathy
Best Wishes for Speedy Recovery
Take care.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Naveen Kumar
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (45 minutes later)
thanks hospital have said not to be worried ao hopefully its good news
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (7 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Please don't worry, It will be good news

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
As I had told you, please don't worry
It will be good news
Take Care
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Prasad
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (3 hours later)
Hi please let me start from the beginning.

Dad approximately 2 months tried to get up and simply couldn’t. Dad has always been an independent man with no mobility problems. We took Dad to the hospital who thought Dad had had a TIA. After assessment TIA was ruled out.

Dads main symptoms were severe pain in left thigh and leg and when he tried to stand up his legs would just collapse underneath him. Dad does have some numbness in his leg. This all started in his left leg but has now developed to the right leg (right leg is now much worse than the left with exactly the same symptoms, numbness, pain and legs collapse underneath him. Numbness in left leg has now resolved but still has it in his right leg. Dads feet are always stone cold and he says he cant tell himself without touch whether both feet are hot or cold. Dad has no upper limb symptoms.

At the moment Dad can’t get from a sitting to standing position yet his left leg now has full power and can leg raise with full range of movement. The right leg however he can hardly lift it up, Dads left leg was like this at first but now the leg seems to be resolving though Dad can still not walk or stand.

We have had a follow up appointment with the Stroke Team who have now discharged Dad as they say his condition is not stroke related.

We have seen a Neurologist and are awaiting EMG studies plus MRI scan and Occupational Therapy input. Neurologist gave us no hope what so ever and said there is no treatment and reversing what is wrong with Dad. I am sure medicine these days there must be something.



Please find below the letter we got from the Neurologist:



Diagnosis: likely diabetic motor sensory neuropathy



Thank you for referring this 68 year old right handed gentleman to the Neurology clinic. He has had Diabetes since 2000. His control was previously poor though has improved in the last 9 months. Mr Bridge has a previous history of osteomyelitis for which he was treated long term antibiotics (18 months of antibiotics). He now describes a 2 month history of progressive weakness of both legs. He also described numbness in the legs. His arms bowel bladder speech and swallowing is unaffected.



On examination today his cranial nerves were unremarkable. Examination of limbs revealed normal tone. Power was normal in both arms and legs. Hip flexion was reduced to 3/5 bilaterally. Reflexes were absent in the legs but present in the arms. Sensation to pinprick was reduced distally in the legs but was present in the arms. Vibration sense was absent up to the hips. There were no fasciculation’s visible.



I suspect this gentleman has quite a severe axonal motor sensory neuropathy secondary to his diabetes. I have explained that this is not a treatable condition but we need to exclude any more treatable condition but we need to do some further investigations to exclude anymore treatable causes. I am arranging MRI scan of lumbar spine to make sure there is no cord pathology or nerve root compression and some nerve conduction studies to quantify the extent of his nerve damage.



Questions:

1. Do you have any idea what is wrong with my Dads legs?

2. How can we get Dad XXXXXXX even with a Zimmer (Dad still falls with a frame)

3. Do you think this condition can resolve or get better?

4. If Dad can move legs freely whilst sat down why can he not stand up without legs collapsing or him falling?

5. What is axonal motor sensory neuropathy and do you agree this is what is wrong? Can it get any better?

6. Will my Dad ever walk again even with a Zimmer/Walking Stick?



Since all the above Dad has been admitted into hospital and he has had an MRI scan. The MRI scan has shown a spine bulging disc. Could this be my dads problem and not neuropathy at all?



Dads symptoms seem to be resolving the numbness, pain in thighs but Dad can not stand up.



We have Nerve Conduction Studies in a few days time.



Please help me I am so worried. The hospital say there is nothing to worry about and they are expecting Nerve Conduction Studies to come back okay.

Dad has be a drinker in the past like 1/2 bottle whisky every night thats why originally ask about alcohol neuropathy but he has had no alcohol at all for past 4 weeks. Based on all the above do you see my Dad can stand and even walk again?
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (22 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Answers for All questions are given one by one

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome Back

I will answer your questions one by one

Questions:

Q 1. Do you have any idea what is wrong with my Dads legs?
A 1. The motor nerves and sensory nerves supplying his lower limb do not carry signals
since motor nerves do not carry signals he can't walk normally
since sensory nerves do not carry signals, he can't feel heat, vibration etc


Q 2. How can we get Dad XXXXXXX even with a Zimmer (Dad still falls with a frame)
A 2. He can get XXXXXXX by treating the cause of neuropathy. ie Vitamin deficiency and Alcoholic neuropathy and diabetic neuropathy


Q 3. Do you think this condition can resolve or get better?
A 3. By proper treatment this will get better


Q 4. If Dad can move legs freely whilst sat down why can he not stand up without legs collapsing or him falling?
A 4. Muscle Power has six grades
0 - No Movement at all
1 - Flicker of Movements
2 - Minimal Movements, but can't move against Gravity
3 - Moves against gravity, but cannot move against resistance
4 - Moves against resistance, but not full power
5 - Full Power

Now, the legs are probably in Grade 3. So he is able to move freely
To Stand up, you need Grade 5 Power
Once he gets to that power, he will stand and walk

Q 5. What is axonal motor sensory neuropathy and do you agree this is what is wrong? Can it get any better?
A 5. Axonal Motor Sensory Neuropathy means the axons of Sensory nerves (which carry signal to brain from skin etc) and motor nerves (which carry signal to muscles from brain) are affected
Yes. This is Neuropathy. It can get better with proper treatment.

Q 6. Will my Dad ever walk again even with a Zimmer/Walking Stick?
A 6. Yes. By proper treatment we can get him to stand and even walk


Q 7. Based on all the above do you see my Dad can stand and even walk again?
A 7. Yes. He can Stand and even walk with proper treatment.


Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Sonia Raina
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (7 hours later)
hospital have established dads weakness is coming from thighs Physio can not get him up cos legs are too weak. will my dad ever be able to stand again. what could be wrong if it not neuropathy
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (19 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Thigh weakness occurs in Diabetic Neuropathy

Detailed Answer:
Hi,

Thigh weakness is common in Diabetic Neuropathy

Diabetic Neuropathy is treatable

So
There is a very good chance of dad going to stand and walk soon

Please don't worry
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Yogesh D
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Follow up: Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (15 minutes later)
thanks so much I am really really worried thats it motor neurone disease. is life expectancy normal with this kind of neuropathy
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Answered by Dr. Bruno Mascarenhas (2 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Motor Neuron Disease will not have numbness

Detailed Answer:
Hi,

Motor Neurons are Neurons which supply muscles
Motor Neuron Disease will have only weakness.
If there is numbness, it means sensory neurone are also involved
So, please don't worry about motor neuron disease

Hope you found the answer helpful.

If you need any clarification / have doubts / have additional questions / have follow up questions, then please do not hesitate in asking again. I will be happy to answer your questions.

Best Wishes for Speedy Recovery
Let me know if I can assist you further.
Take care.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Naveen Kumar
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Is Alcoholic Neuropathy Reversible?

Brief Answer: Alcoholic Neuropathy will improve after proper treatment Detailed Answer: Hi, Welcome to HealthCareMagic.com I am Dr.J XXXXXXX Anto Bruno Mascarenhas, and I am here to help you. I have read your question with care and understand your concerns.   I am glad that you are determined to modify your life style. With regard to diseases which are caused by life style, the best factor deciding improvement is the determination of the patient in changing his life style Since you are determined, you can consider yourself as having solved the major part of treatment. Please follow the instructions of the doctors and you will be back to your normal walking and other activities in few months Hope you found the answer helpful. If you need any clarification / have doubts / have additional questions / have follow up questions, then please do not hesitate in asking again. I will be happy to answer your questions. Best Wishes for Speedy Recovery Let me know if I can assist you further. Take care.