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Medical Test Showing TPHA Positive And RPR Negative. Prescribed With Antibiotics. Had Terrible Flu. Should I Go For Penicillin?

I did a medical checkup and came back with TPHA positive but RPR( VDRL ) negative. THe doctor prescribe me with antibiotics doxycline 100mg for 10 days and ask me to come after 1 month for another test. I had few encounters before with protected intercourse but receiving unprotected oral sex . This is my first time of blood check. i have HIV Chlymadia herpes all came back negative. I am not sure what to do ? Is this possible THPA pstive with RPR negative ? never had symptoms except 1 month ago i have terrible flu and sore throat pain which lasted 1 week and doctor prescribe me with antibiotics as well . Should i go for penicilin. im looking for help :)
Mon, 10 Sep 2012
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Hi there. I read your history with interest. Yes it is possible to get a positive TPHA & a negative RPR (VDRL). However, like i stressed on another public forum query, this has to be interpreted with caution & taking the individual case history & clinical features in consideration.

To begin with, the VDRL can be negative simply because of the antigenic load. This can be confirmed by doing the test in 'high dilutions'. Also, it may turn up false negative. It is not a very 'sensitive' test..in that it may detect a lot more than it excludes but based on this, a definitive treatment cannot be made. Very commonly long standing fevers etc can easily manifest as VDRL positive & then one is in a quandry. What it does supply when positive is a guide (albeit not always reliable) to progress of treatment.

The TPHA test too can manifest with both false positivity or negativty. I understand this must be all confusing for the ordinary person &believe me even dermatologists' & immunologists consider this an 'academic graveyard'!

In your case, the best advice i can give you is stick with your dermatologist/venereologist on the ground. When in doubt, a TPI test is mre relevant (treponema pallidum immobilization test) &/or a FTA-Abs test (immunoflorescent treponema antibodies if this facility available near you at a large centre). If none available, i would recommend using the age-old tried & trusted 28 day regime of a safe Erythromycin tabs to treat as for secondary syphilis (given your time frame & h/o multiple exposures). I find erythropmycin both a safe & effective alternative to penicillin mainly because of something known as the Jarisch Herxheimer reaction which believe me is something you dont want to take a risk with...& the details are too long to go into on a public forum!

Trust all your questions stand answered & wish you a quick recovery & safe health..& Please do practice Safe Sex..whatever the variety you should choose to indulge in. Cheers & Good Luck!

Dr Praveen Rodrigues MD

Dermatologist, Cosmetologist, Venereologist

Vikram Hospital, Bangalore, India.
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Medical Test Showing TPHA Positive And RPR Negative. Prescribed With Antibiotics. Had Terrible Flu. Should I Go For Penicillin?

Hi there. I read your history with interest. Yes it is possible to get a positive TPHA & a negative RPR (VDRL). However, like i stressed on another public forum query, this has to be interpreted with caution & taking the individual case history & clinical features in consideration. To begin with, the VDRL can be negative simply because of the antigenic load. This can be confirmed by doing the test in high dilutions . Also, it may turn up false negative. It is not a very sensitive test..in that it may detect a lot more than it excludes but based on this, a definitive treatment cannot be made. Very commonly long standing fevers etc can easily manifest as VDRL positive & then one is in a quandry. What it does supply when positive is a guide (albeit not always reliable) to progress of treatment. The TPHA test too can manifest with both false positivity or negativty. I understand this must be all confusing for the ordinary person &believe me even dermatologists & immunologists consider this an academic graveyard ! In your case, the best advice i can give you is stick with your dermatologist/venereologist on the ground. When in doubt, a TPI test is mre relevant (treponema pallidum immobilization test) &/or a FTA-Abs test (immunoflorescent treponema antibodies if this facility available near you at a large centre). If none available, i would recommend using the age-old tried & trusted 28 day regime of a safe Erythromycin tabs to treat as for secondary syphilis (given your time frame & h/o multiple exposures). I find erythropmycin both a safe & effective alternative to penicillin mainly because of something known as the Jarisch Herxheimer reaction which believe me is something you dont want to take a risk with...& the details are too long to go into on a public forum! Trust all your questions stand answered & wish you a quick recovery & safe health..& Please do practice Safe Sex..whatever the variety you should choose to indulge in. Cheers & Good Luck! Dr Praveen Rodrigues MD Dermatologist, Cosmetologist, Venereologist Vikram Hospital, Bangalore, India.