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Posted on Fri, 23 Oct 2015
Question: I fell in love with a paranoid schizophrenic widower two years ago.We saw each other every day.We are both in our sixties and have been married twice. At the time he was talking a lot about a satanist woman and my mother was actually a satanist so I thought that that was what it was...a few months into our interactions in which he came to me I thought because he liked me but also wanted help with this woman who was tormenting him he told me and my son that he never thought he could love anyone more than his dead wife until he met me...for the last ten months i have been talking to another psychiatrist and thought that I would try someone else. When I went into the hospital he started blaming himself and said that I needed to stay away from him because something bad would happen to him like me dying like his wife did or his parents did or his step son did...please don't tell me to forget about him its bgeen two years and I have tried to kill myself five or more times due to this man..he loved me the way I am and is a genuinely loving Jewish Christian like I am. I spend long lonely days without him now because suddently he decided that i was obsessed with him when it was the other way around although i am deeply in love with him and yes i guess obsessed..In February I emailed him that I missed him terribly and that i had taken a bottle of pills because I couldn't live without him...he filed an injunction of harassment against me that was upheld and I feel so sad and bewildered. I know that the real XXXXXXX is in there somewhere but until February I cannot have anyting to do with him even through friends or other family. He has no one else to care for him and als he told me in May of 2014 he was hearing entities telling him it was his job to kill people. Can you help me? When I met him i didn't want a relationship but he came in and stole both my son's and my hearts and now he filed this injunction that was upheld. The first one was dismissed but I guess he was always afraid that I would kill myself. I wasn't but now that two years almost have gone by I don't think there is anything to live for...I live alone now and am ill and just so sad I keep wishing for the pillls to kill myself..will he ever come back? Will he just keep filing injunctions? What happens when the year is up? He did see us in March in court because i filed one on him and he seemed to not even understand why he couldn't talk to me,,,but when i apppealed he hired an lawyer as he was afraid he would be put in the hospital..I cannot forget the times he came over funny and smart and so guileless not malicious at all. kinder tomy son than my son's dad is...I am always on the verge of killing myself...I will be 67 and he will be 65
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Answered by Dr. Shubham Mehta (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
always stay hopeful.

Detailed Answer:
Hello
Welcome to HCM.
I have gone through all your details, the situations which you have described here in your query.

I really feel for you. Its unfortunate that he filled injunctions against you.

After reading your query, It appears the he also feels for you, cares for you.
May be his illness is making him paranoid against you.
The guy who once so genuine and true, can not turn against you all of sudden.
I believe its not him but his illness which is responsible for such behaviour.

You mention that there is no one to care for him other than you. You have selflessly and truly loved him. I strongly believe in the notion that love begets love.
There may be conflicts, confusions and misunderstandings between you two, but the love will prevail.

See, there are good and bad phases. He would someday realize how living and caring you have been to him. There would be no injunctions after that.

You want to end your life. Dear, I would urge youto stay alive to see him change. Why would you not want to see him love you once again? If you would end your life, how would you get to feel his love again for you?
Youhave to live to see the good times again.

I think you should give him and yourself some time.
Your love is selfless. You care for him. You must pray for him.
It would be a sort of selfishness to kill your self. You need to live for him atleast, in the hope of getting him back.

Hope you find my response of some help.
I wish I could be there to help you in these difficult times. I assure you to provide all possible help here. You can contact me anytime if you wish to. I shall be more than happy to help.

Hope to hear from you again.

Take care.
Regards.
Dr. Shubham Mehta, MD.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shubham Mehta (17 minutes later)
I have been talking to dr XXXX from XXXXXXX and he is a really good man but i need two of you and i think you are the one..you are like him kind and all. I hope you are not just telling me what i want to here. the us psychiatrists seem to think i should just forget him...they do not understand that even though we are in our sixties neither of us ever really truly were in love to this degree...he loved everything about me even my jewish hook nose well he is french ukrainian and i am irish jew. We both love God at the same level and that was our connecting point. Dr XXXX said and XXXXXXX told me that something bad would happen if he stayed with me but something bad has happened because he isn't here...i was never suicidal like this except through the flashbacks from childhood abuse which ended nearly 30 years ago..and that wasn't even this bad...we are both alone now and it is so sad...my son sad that he knew that XXXXXXX loved me he said more than his wife which he didn't think was possible she died four years ago...I breached the restraining order two weeks ago by emailing him but he had blocked it...I don't understand the illness...Dr XXXX kept saying he has no insight but what does that mean exactly? He filed the injunction on me only when I told him that I was so sad that his self fullfilling prophecy had come true that last year I tried to kill myself...I was so desperate to get a response out of him after all of this time...my son was weeping because he called him a stalker when we had been through Christmas and Thanksgiving together and I thought we were going to get married and move to Israel....but instead he filed an injunction and the appeals court upheld it because according to the law they cannot take new evidence and as I was not allowed to make a case for his mental illness in the lower court Judge Goldstein couldn't have it dismissed on that grounds. But I am afraid for him and of him both. If I try to email him again which I did and he could legally have had the police haul me to jail for that...its a real cruel law...we were romantically involved not sexually....it was way much more than that a very deep emotional and spiritual connection...we both love Yshua Ha Machiach so very much and that was our main connection..I never met anyone who loved me so guilelessly and openly everything about me and then this tragedy....I have no one to talk to and no one who wants to listen to me.They just want to medicate me and insist I have delusional disorder...no I love him and miss him even after almost two years,,,
I don't understand why if he still loves me he would want me to stay away from him by the injunction unless could it be that he is still afraid that something bad might happen to me if he is with me...he has this way out belief that he is cursed and that all the people he loves will die including me but even when the judge and his lawyer thought he might be willing to have the injunction dismissed because I was moving to Israel he still didn't have it dismissed and he is the only one who can do it...
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Answered by Dr. Shubham Mehta (5 hours later)
Brief Answer:
he may not be having insight at present.

Detailed Answer:
Sorry for the late response dear.
I will be glad if I could be of any help to you.
You can approach me anytime if you wish to share and discuss anything.

I will always be true and honest and just keep buttering and telling what you want to hear. I think that would be the right thing to do. Isn't it?

Its difficult to forget a person whom you love to such extent. Its easy for a third person to say 'forget him'. But I can understand it is painful and impossible to do so.

'No insight' means that the person does not understand and accept his illness. Abd paranoid schizophrenia is such a bad illness that the person can develop paranoia for anyone around him, keeping aside all the relationships.

Till he is in this phase of illness, the more you will try to approach him, the more paranoid he will become. You breached the restrain by emailing him and he blocked you. Your such acts will make him more paranoid against you.
I know you are desparate for his love (a pure romantic relationship) but I feel for him too.
Although he is not doing right by filing injunctions against you, he might still be unaware of his acts with the beliefs that you are against him.

So, I request you to not breach the law again. If you do so, you will intensify his beliefs againt you.

My words may be harsh sometimes, but I would suggest you to please do not commit such an act against law. This will be good for you, him abd your relationship for now.

You have strong faith in god. I feel that god never does injustice to his followers. The rewards may be delayed, but he gives everyone what he really deserves. This might be a testing time for you and your love,but I am sure god is watching and has reserved his best for you in future.

I agree with Dr. XXXX.
Probably XXXXXXX might not have insights about his actions at present.
But hope for the best always.

Hope I am able to put my suggestions clearly.

Be assured that I am here to listen to you.
You can directly contact whenever you wish to. I would be happy to see you happy.

Take care.
Regards.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shubham Mehta (29 minutes later)
I am confused. Do u mean that if I stay away until the injunction is finished in four months he might begin to miss me? I just cry all day long missing him and my son. We were so in love and he developed a fear that I would die if I was with him so he stayed away and filed the I junction to keep me away. How long do these phases last? My son was blocked abd two othervpeople have also been blocked.For all I know he has blockef everone not just me. He also disconnected his phone. In court he said I kept calling him but I never did. Why would he think I was calling him all the time? When we were dating I only called him twice in the six months we dated but he was suspicious of everyone? Finally a few months before he filed the first injunction that was dismissed last year he started hearing entities telling him it was his job to kill people but that he deeply lived me. Two days later he told me to stay away from him. That was inn May of 2014. He has beeb gone ever since but in March when I tried to file an injunction on him hevtried to get my attention abd talk to me so the judge told him to leave me alone.. I am so hurt and confused abd feel so hopeless. Itvis takjnbg so long.
How do O get past the sadness? I feel like therr id something wrong with me that he no longer wants to see me. He doesn't treat the woman who workd for him this way? But if he did she would just quit. I dont know how to get over being so sad..nothing helps
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Answered by Dr. Shubham Mehta (2 hours later)
Brief Answer:
take a break, wait and best will happen soon.

Detailed Answer:
Yes, my sincere suggestion would be that you should try to stay away from him till the injunction is finished or till his paranoia for you is gone and he takes back his injunction.

The reason for this is:
The more you try to approach him, the more legal complications would arise for you.
More than that, his paranoia might get stronger.
He might thus completely avoid and ignore you and you will then feel more sad and frustrated.
This will then become a vicious cycle.

I request you to take a break from this.
It does not, at all, means that you should forget him. Just give some time to him and yourself.

Can not comment on the exact duration of these phases,but I wish and hope that this phase should end at the earliest for you.

Hearing weird voices, blaming and blocking you suggests that his illness must have relapsed. And due to this he has become suspicious for you and everyone around.
Unfortunate for you, I should say.

In my opinion, the best to get over it is to stay away from it for the time being.
I know this phase of sadness is tough to deal with. The best to be happy would to remember the great times you have had with him. Those memories you should cherish, With the hope that everything will get back to normal soon.

Take care.
Hope to hear from you again.

Regards.
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Suggest Ways To Confront Suspicious Behavior And Paranoia

Brief Answer: always stay hopeful. Detailed Answer: Hello Welcome to HCM. I have gone through all your details, the situations which you have described here in your query. I really feel for you. Its unfortunate that he filled injunctions against you. After reading your query, It appears the he also feels for you, cares for you. May be his illness is making him paranoid against you. The guy who once so genuine and true, can not turn against you all of sudden. I believe its not him but his illness which is responsible for such behaviour. You mention that there is no one to care for him other than you. You have selflessly and truly loved him. I strongly believe in the notion that love begets love. There may be conflicts, confusions and misunderstandings between you two, but the love will prevail. See, there are good and bad phases. He would someday realize how living and caring you have been to him. There would be no injunctions after that. You want to end your life. Dear, I would urge youto stay alive to see him change. Why would you not want to see him love you once again? If you would end your life, how would you get to feel his love again for you? Youhave to live to see the good times again. I think you should give him and yourself some time. Your love is selfless. You care for him. You must pray for him. It would be a sort of selfishness to kill your self. You need to live for him atleast, in the hope of getting him back. Hope you find my response of some help. I wish I could be there to help you in these difficult times. I assure you to provide all possible help here. You can contact me anytime if you wish to. I shall be more than happy to help. Hope to hear from you again. Take care. Regards. Dr. Shubham Mehta, MD.