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Dear Dr. Misra, Thanks A Lot For Your Earlier Reply

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Posted on Mon, 15 Jul 2019
Question: Dear Dr. Misra,

Thanks a lot for your earlier reply to my questions in the thread

https://www.healthcaremagic.com/AskDoctorInboxServlet?page=viewQuery&queryId=389732

I have done ERM surgery to my right eye in end May and now is two weeks after. Visual acuity has improved a bit from about 20/30 pre-operation to 20/20 - . Distortion (eg, larger image, wavy lines, wavy edges of objects, spatial and location disparity with left eye ) no apparent improvement. Entoptic phenomenon (image of branches which look like blood vessels in the eye) Intraocular pressure has fluctuated from 6 the day after surgery to 21 yesterday and so doctor has prescribed eye drop to lower the pressure.

Just before right eye surgery, my left eye started to show symptoms of ERM (floating feeling for some images, like having cellophane in front) and OCT in early XXXXXXX confirmed ERM with fovea thickness of 318. (My earlier OCT done in end March this year show normal result for left eye without ERM findings

My questions
1.     What can I expect about the improvement to my vision acuity and distortion as well as any possible complications in the next two or three months and the longer term?
2.     Why is entoptic phenomenon still present after the surgery?
3.     Why my left eye also has ERM so soon after onset of the disease in the right eye and also quickly progress to a fovea thickness of 318? I am worried that there are other underlying pathology or eye disease causing these conditions in both eyes.


Grateful for your expert advice. Many thanks in advance.
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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Dear Dr. Misra,

Thanks a lot for your earlier reply to my questions in the thread

https://www.healthcaremagic.com/AskDoctorInboxServlet?page=viewQuery&queryId=389732

I have done ERM surgery to my right eye in end May and now is two weeks after. Visual acuity has improved a bit from about 20/30 pre-operation to 20/20 - . Distortion (eg, larger image, wavy lines, wavy edges of objects, spatial and location disparity with left eye ) no apparent improvement. Entoptic phenomenon (image of branches which look like blood vessels in the eye) Intraocular pressure has fluctuated from 6 the day after surgery to 21 yesterday and so doctor has prescribed eye drop to lower the pressure.

Just before right eye surgery, my left eye started to show symptoms of ERM (floating feeling for some images, like having cellophane in front) and OCT in early XXXXXXX confirmed ERM with fovea thickness of 318. (My earlier OCT done in end March this year show normal result for left eye without ERM findings

My questions
1.     What can I expect about the improvement to my vision acuity and distortion as well as any possible complications in the next two or three months and the longer term?
2.     Why is entoptic phenomenon still present after the surgery?
3.     Why my left eye also has ERM so soon after onset of the disease in the right eye and also quickly progress to a fovea thickness of 318? I am worried that there are other underlying pathology or eye disease causing these conditions in both eyes.


Grateful for your expert advice. Many thanks in advance.
doctor
Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (8 hours later)
Brief Answer:
ERM

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to me.

As your visual acuity is already 20/20, quantitatively your vision is already good but distortions may take longer to reduce. This remains to be seen how much of distortions disappear over the next few months.

The entropic phenomenon may be present normally also.

Development of ERM in the other eye is due to the fact that all conditions are the same for this eye also and what is strange in your case is that it develops at a rapid pace, unlike a slow, long drawn process which we see in our cases.

As the exact reason of formation is not known and routine tests for you would already have been performed, no specific reason is at times found.

Keep this ERM under observation to have it removed if necessary.

Regards


Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Arnab Banerjee
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Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
ERM

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to me.

As your visual acuity is already 20/20, quantitatively your vision is already good but distortions may take longer to reduce. This remains to be seen how much of distortions disappear over the next few months.

The entropic phenomenon may be present normally also.

Development of ERM in the other eye is due to the fact that all conditions are the same for this eye also and what is strange in your case is that it develops at a rapid pace, unlike a slow, long drawn process which we see in our cases.

As the exact reason of formation is not known and routine tests for you would already have been performed, no specific reason is at times found.

Keep this ERM under observation to have it removed if necessary.

Regards


Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Arnab Banerjee
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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (38 hours later)
Dear Dr Misra,

Thanks for your reply.

Is entoptic phenomenon due to the ERM? I wonder why entoptic phenomenon is still present after ERM surgery. Or is entoptic phenomenon due to other disease or pathology? Is it worrisome?

In my case my ERM developed rapidly in right eye ( operated eye) and now ERM is also developing in my left eye. Is it common to develop ERM for both eyes at nearly the same time? Do I need to worry about the pathology or any other eye disease underlying? Do I need to ask my doctor to do any other tests or examination? I have only done OCT for both my right and left eyes.

Given my rapid progression of ERM in my right eye before the surgery, does it have implications on ERM recurrence? What can be done if it really recur some time in future? Do the surgery again?

Thanks in advance for your expert advice.
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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Dear Dr Misra,

Thanks for your reply.

Is entoptic phenomenon due to the ERM? I wonder why entoptic phenomenon is still present after ERM surgery. Or is entoptic phenomenon due to other disease or pathology? Is it worrisome?

In my case my ERM developed rapidly in right eye ( operated eye) and now ERM is also developing in my left eye. Is it common to develop ERM for both eyes at nearly the same time? Do I need to worry about the pathology or any other eye disease underlying? Do I need to ask my doctor to do any other tests or examination? I have only done OCT for both my right and left eyes.

Given my rapid progression of ERM in my right eye before the surgery, does it have implications on ERM recurrence? What can be done if it really recur some time in future? Do the surgery again?

Thanks in advance for your expert advice.
doctor
Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Entropic phenomenon

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to us.
Entropic phenomenon is a normal phenomenon and seen by everyone,if you are alert to notice it.
ERM in your other eye may occur in a few cases.There are two aspects,one is very rapid development.It almost seem to be developing by leaps and bounds.It is a relatively rapid pace of progression,that's a reason we tend to suggest quick surgery.Before any further complication starts due to delayed surgery.
Since the conditions for both eyes are the same chances are always there that the other eye develops ERM.
Guided by the progression of ERM in operated eye,we will be watchful to go ahead with surgery of this eye quickly.
There are no other tests and investigations needed for this condetion.Keep a watch on progression,monitor thicknesd by Oct and plan surgery when needed.Keep a margin for a vidental delays like happened last time due to caugh and respiratory infection.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Nagamani Ng
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Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
Entropic phenomenon

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to us.
Entropic phenomenon is a normal phenomenon and seen by everyone,if you are alert to notice it.
ERM in your other eye may occur in a few cases.There are two aspects,one is very rapid development.It almost seem to be developing by leaps and bounds.It is a relatively rapid pace of progression,that's a reason we tend to suggest quick surgery.Before any further complication starts due to delayed surgery.
Since the conditions for both eyes are the same chances are always there that the other eye develops ERM.
Guided by the progression of ERM in operated eye,we will be watchful to go ahead with surgery of this eye quickly.
There are no other tests and investigations needed for this condetion.Keep a watch on progression,monitor thicknesd by Oct and plan surgery when needed.Keep a margin for a vidental delays like happened last time due to caugh and respiratory infection.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Nagamani Ng
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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (2 days later)
Dear Dr Misra,

Thanks much for your advice. What about the chance of recurrence for my operated eye? My doctor said with internal limiting membrane removed, the chance of recurrence is very low. He also advised me to sleep on my side rather than sleeping on my back to avoid fibres/tissues in my eye depositing at the macular area. My question/conscern is that despite low chance of recurrence, , what happen if it really recurs? Do surgery again?

Will I have a higher chance of macular hole after this ERM surgery? Does the fact that I had ERM surgery will make it more complicated to treat macular hole if it does arise in future?

With ERM surgery done, apart from cataract, in the longer term, will I have a greater chance of other eye disease such as retinal detachment, glaucoma, machular degeneration etc.?

I had complete vitrectomy for my RE. But I still see many floaters (transparent dots and lines) especially when the background is bright or light colour. Why?

Thanks again for your advice
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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Dear Dr Misra,

Thanks much for your advice. What about the chance of recurrence for my operated eye? My doctor said with internal limiting membrane removed, the chance of recurrence is very low. He also advised me to sleep on my side rather than sleeping on my back to avoid fibres/tissues in my eye depositing at the macular area. My question/conscern is that despite low chance of recurrence, , what happen if it really recurs? Do surgery again?

Will I have a higher chance of macular hole after this ERM surgery? Does the fact that I had ERM surgery will make it more complicated to treat macular hole if it does arise in future?

With ERM surgery done, apart from cataract, in the longer term, will I have a greater chance of other eye disease such as retinal detachment, glaucoma, machular degeneration etc.?

I had complete vitrectomy for my RE. But I still see many floaters (transparent dots and lines) especially when the background is bright or light colour. Why?

Thanks again for your advice
doctor
Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (15 hours later)
Brief Answer:
ERM

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to us.

Chances of ERM recurring again are very low. So now that I in my 37 years of practice have not seen any case. Though theoretically it can occur and people have reported cases.
XXXXXXX of development of cataract definitely increases, not due to ERM but due to vitrectomy. That is a known complication.

Management or occurrence of retinal detachment is helped as in many cases where detachment occurred due to pulling apart by vitreous attachment is already prevented by vitrectomy performed earlier.

Development of macular pathologies is to be monitored by repeat follow up.
Floaters are known to be present, always seen on a light background and may take months to disappear.

You had a good surgery and let's hope for the best long term result.

Regards


Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Arnab Banerjee
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
ERM

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to us.

Chances of ERM recurring again are very low. So now that I in my 37 years of practice have not seen any case. Though theoretically it can occur and people have reported cases.
XXXXXXX of development of cataract definitely increases, not due to ERM but due to vitrectomy. That is a known complication.

Management or occurrence of retinal detachment is helped as in many cases where detachment occurred due to pulling apart by vitreous attachment is already prevented by vitrectomy performed earlier.

Development of macular pathologies is to be monitored by repeat follow up.
Floaters are known to be present, always seen on a light background and may take months to disappear.

You had a good surgery and let's hope for the best long term result.

Regards


Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Arnab Banerjee
doctor
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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (2 days later)

Dear Dr Misra,

Thanks much for your expert advice which is very informative and useful. For floaters, do you mean that my floaters in the operated eye will eventually disappear in a few months? Or will floaters continue to persist permanently despite having performed vitrectomy?

I wonder whether having had ERM is associated with a higher chance of macular degeneration or glaucoma in future? Any research or studies on this? Can you share your clinical experience also?

Thanks much for your advice.

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Follow up: Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)

Dear Dr Misra,

Thanks much for your expert advice which is very informative and useful. For floaters, do you mean that my floaters in the operated eye will eventually disappear in a few months? Or will floaters continue to persist permanently despite having performed vitrectomy?

I wonder whether having had ERM is associated with a higher chance of macular degeneration or glaucoma in future? Any research or studies on this? Can you share your clinical experience also?

Thanks much for your advice.

doctor
Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
ERM surgery

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to us.
Vitreous floaters we usually not bothered about.They are usually present in normal people.Since you are an operated person ,you are more likely to have floaters.They will resolve in a few months time .Even if it doesn't resolve,we don't attach any importance to it.
Macular degeneration may occur at any stage,it is to avoid macular hole that we are going ahead with vitrectomy.
Gloucoma ,if it has to occur as a complication of vitrectomy occurs in early post op period.Now your chances of getting glaucoma are as good as rest of population.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Answered by Dr. N K Mishra (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
ERM surgery

Detailed Answer:
My dear,
Thanks for sending your query to us.
Vitreous floaters we usually not bothered about.They are usually present in normal people.Since you are an operated person ,you are more likely to have floaters.They will resolve in a few months time .Even if it doesn't resolve,we don't attach any importance to it.
Macular degeneration may occur at any stage,it is to avoid macular hole that we are going ahead with vitrectomy.
Gloucoma ,if it has to occur as a complication of vitrectomy occurs in early post op period.Now your chances of getting glaucoma are as good as rest of population.
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Dear Dr. Misra, Thanks A Lot For Your Earlier Reply

Dear Dr. Misra, Thanks a lot for your earlier reply to my questions in the thread https://www.healthcaremagic.com/AskDoctorInboxServlet?page=viewQuery&queryId=389732 I have done ERM surgery to my right eye in end May and now is two weeks after. Visual acuity has improved a bit from about 20/30 pre-operation to 20/20 - . Distortion (eg, larger image, wavy lines, wavy edges of objects, spatial and location disparity with left eye ) no apparent improvement. Entoptic phenomenon (image of branches which look like blood vessels in the eye) Intraocular pressure has fluctuated from 6 the day after surgery to 21 yesterday and so doctor has prescribed eye drop to lower the pressure. Just before right eye surgery, my left eye started to show symptoms of ERM (floating feeling for some images, like having cellophane in front) and OCT in early XXXXXXX confirmed ERM with fovea thickness of 318. (My earlier OCT done in end March this year show normal result for left eye without ERM findings My questions 1. What can I expect about the improvement to my vision acuity and distortion as well as any possible complications in the next two or three months and the longer term? 2. Why is entoptic phenomenon still present after the surgery? 3. Why my left eye also has ERM so soon after onset of the disease in the right eye and also quickly progress to a fovea thickness of 318? I am worried that there are other underlying pathology or eye disease causing these conditions in both eyes. Grateful for your expert advice. Many thanks in advance.