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What causes high cholesterol level while on Hypocol & Cholenol?

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I have been on Hypocol & Cholenol for the past 3 years. These are supplements to reduce cholesterol and they contain statin. Recently, about 2 months ago, I went on a vegan diet, taking only 2 meals a day and walking briskly on the treadmill for an hour daily (5km in 50 minutes). During this time, I also stopped taking Hypocol & Cholenol. My weight dropped from 75kg to 69kg in the 2 months of dieting, yet my cholesterol went up from 4.5 mmol/l to 7.5 mmol/l. Now that I am no longer taking oily, fried foods, nor animal fats, why am I experiencing such high cholesterol levels? I have been advised to continue with Hypocol but I refused since it contains statin and I know all about the ill effects of statin.
Posted Fri, 17 Jan 2014 in Hypertension and Heart Disease
Answered by Dr. Jorge Brenes-Salazar 7 minutes later
Brief Answer: The body is a factory of cholesterol Detailed Answer: Dear sir, Thanks for your query. Many patients have that same question. It happens to be that most of the cholesterol in our bodies is created by owr own body, not ingested from meals. So, many individuals produce more and breakdown less cholesterol than they should (this happens mainly in the liver). You probably belong to that group of patients, since a very strict diet has been unable and probably will not be able to normalize cholesterol levels. More modern statins at a lower dose such as rosuvastatin are well tolerated; the most "noble" of all statins in terms of side effects is pravastatin. Red yeast rice extracts are reasonable but there is no compelling evidence for their effects. At the end of the day, it would be your preference balanced by the medical benefits that you may have from a lower cholesterol. Hope this helps wish you the best, Dr Brenes-Salazar MD Mayo Clinic MN Cardiology
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Follow-up: What causes high cholesterol level while on Hypocol & Cholenol? 27 minutes later
I have been monitoring my cholesterol levels on a weekly and sometimes daily basis using the AvoMeter Perfect, a home cholesterol measuring meter. Recent readings are as follows : 28/11/13- 5.4 mmol/l, 09/12/13 - 6.5 mmol/l, 16/12/13 - 5.5 mmol/l, 20/12/13 - 4.9 mmol/l, 23/12/13 - 6.5 mmol/l, 24/12/13 - 5.6 mmol/l, 25/12/13 - 5.7 mmol/l, 26/12/13 - 6.3 mmol/l, 27/12/13 - 6.7 mmol/l. Why am I experiencing such volatile cholesterol levels, with drastic highs and lows when my meals and exercises are the same everyday? Will consuming lemon juice and dark chocolate help to lower my cholesterol levels?
Answered by Dr. Jorge Brenes-Salazar 43 minutes later
Brief Answer: No demonstrated benefit for lemon juice or choco Detailed Answer: Thanks for the follow up. I presume that potentially the variations could be related to the prandial state, as some portions of the lipid panel get affected by food, particularly VLDL cholesterol. Sensitivity and calibration of the meter may contribute in a lesser way. So, most of the testing that we do in the lab is in the fasting state. To the best of my knowledge, there is no strong evidence to support lemon or chocolate for the treatment of elevated lipids Truly yours
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Follow-up: What causes high cholesterol level while on Hypocol & Cholenol? 23 hours later
Dear Dr XXXXXXX Brenes-Salazar Let me first elaborate on the reason I first took up Hypochol (which is really red yeast) and cholenol (cholesterol reducing supplement). Back in the year 2010, I found out through a series of routine blood tests that I have sightly elevated cholesterol level. My family doctor advised that I reduce my intake of alcoholic drinks and cholesterol raising foods to bring the level down. He attributed the elevation to my love of alcohol, red meats and seafood which I consumed in high quantities. I was reluctant to change my lifestyle and hence began taking these 2 supplements so that I could continue to enjoy what I love. This helped to normalize my cholesterol until 2 months ago when I went on a vegan diet and stopped the 2 supplements. I thought this should work since it was food that raised it in the first place. But it didn't. So my query is, has the 2 supplements affected my body's ability to eliminate cholesterol? Or do I have to give it some time, say 6 months, to 'tune back'? Is there a window period to allow my body to adjust and improve on the cholesterol eliminating function without the help of drugs? Would you recommend that I wait a few months before I go back on these supplements? In my condition, without these supplements for the next 6 months, will I be at risk of a heart attack? Kindly advise. Thank you very much for your patience. Best regards Malaysian Patient
Answered by Dr. Jorge Brenes-Salazar 2 hours later
Brief Answer: Current condition independent from meds Detailed Answer: Thanks for the complete explanation. I do not think that the medications "changed" your metabolism, it is just probably that your body lost the ability to regulate cholesterol by diet and exercise without assistance; similar to the blood pressure patient who eventually is unable to control a normal blood pressure without medications. You can ask your primary doctor to estimate your Framingham risk score, which would give you a rough estimate of your cardiovascular risk for the next 10 years, and you could estimate a yearly cumulative risk. There are a lot of options in the world of statins, so you may consider giving them a chance; and as you may well know, the active component in red rice yeast is lovastatin, the earliest of all statins. Yours truly
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Follow-up: What causes high cholesterol level while on Hypocol & Cholenol? 21 hours later
Dear Dr XXXXXXX Brenes-Salazar My pharmacist recommends that I take the red yeast because the lovastatin is naturally occurring. He thinks it is a better option compared to a chemically derived statin. I am a little confused here. So in your opinion, which statin should I use? Thank you very much for explaining my situation very clearly and patiently. I am glad that I found this website and most importantly you and your valued advice to clear my doubts. Wishing you a Happy New Year and all the best in the year 2014! Thank you again, Sir! Best Regards XXXX A very grateful Malaysian patient
Answered by Dr. Jorge Brenes-Salazar 24 minutes later
Brief Answer: Most welcome Detailed Answer: Dear XXXX, It has been my pleasure to help you. The pharmacist is right in the sense that the lovastatin contained in red rice yeast is naturally occurring, but you can imagine that one of the biggest problems is that we do not know how much is contained in a given portion, as opposed to a pill where you know exactly how many miligrams are contained, and thus, we can have a more predictable response. In patients that are a bit reluctant to take a statin, I recommend the most gentle and best tolerated: pravastatin. It has less interactions and less reported side effects. Another good option is fluvastatin, the second best tolerated statin. Wish you the best in this 2014, yours truly, Dr Brenes-Salazar MD Mayo Clinic MN Cardiology
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