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What Does The Following Biopsy Report When Diagnosed With Rectal Cancer Indicate?

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Posted on Mon, 6 Mar 2017
Question: My mom is diagnosed of having a rectal cancer. The biopsy report says "Section shows well formed neoplastic glands lined by pleomorphic columnar cells infiltrating the mucosa & submucosa with scattered peritumoral lymphocytes: rectosigmoid growth well differentiated adenocarcinoma"

An expert colorectal sergeon treating mom said she has a perforation in colon so chemo and radiation before srugery is dangerous. So first sergery and then chemo and radiation.

Is he on right track?
which stage is this cancer?
Is it 100% curable?
what would be the course of action?
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Answered by Dr. Deepak Sundriyal (55 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Usual sequence is chemo-radiotherapy followed by surgery

Detailed Answer:
Hello dear.
I have gone through the details.

So She has a rectal cancer which appears to be in locally advanced stage due to enlarged nodes. Exact staging can be decided only after surgery.

As per the ct scan reports, there is no evidence of any perforation. Clinically also, a patient of perforation has to be treated immediately and should not wait for 11 days as CT scan is dated 11 days back. So in my opinion, there is no perforation. The usual sequence of treatment in such a case is chemo-rt followed by surgery ans then chemotherapy. The chances of cure will be around 30 to 40 percent. Cancer Surgery should be done by a certified cancer surgeon only and not a colo-rectal surgeon.

Thanks and regards
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Follow up: Dr. Deepak Sundriyal (4 hours later)
Hi, I have provided some attachments. Please review them.

Thanks Doc for the prompt reply.
I have uploaded more reports of CEA, blood and urine reports, US abdomen.
Please review them.
The CT abdomen and US abdomen reports were not taken on the prescription of colorectal surgeon. Rather they were taken on prescription of a General Physician in another hospital. I brought CT abdomen and US abdomen reports along with me when I consulted the colorectal surgeon. I am making this point because the CT abdomen report was not made under supervision of the colorectal surgeon. But he interpreted the already done CT abdomen, US abdomen and he must have made his radiologist review the CT abdomen images as he kept the CT films with him for a day. He performed CEA, some blood and urine tests, CT chest, ECG and Sigmoidoscopy with biopsy.
And after interpreting all the reports including biopsy report he told that because of perforation it may not be safe (may spread to other parts) to do chemo, rt before surgery.
I would also like to make a point here: This colorectal surgeon has a successful history of operating many cancers in colorectal region.

For a second opinion I consulted an oncology surgeon with all the existing reports.
Now he performed US Neck, CT chest to check whether the cancer has spread to other parts.
I want to make a point here: I observed the interpreting is being done by his assistants but not by him.
After interpreting the US Neck, CT chest reports he said the cancer is confined to only rectum and he was about to start the treatment. The treatment was to give 4 weeks of chemo, rt before surgery (For each week chemo for one day as in-patient and rt for 5 days as out-patient). Here I interrupted him by mentioning about the perforation indicated by the colorectal surgeon. Oncology surgeon got a doubt here and he wanted to have the existing CT abdomen images reviewed by his radiologist. I handed over the CT abdomen films and DICOM images CD to him. The next day his radiologist came with the following report:
---Thickening of walls of upper and middle third of rectum.
---Peri-rectal fat standing and nodes+
---Fat plane of uterus is lost.
---Fluid density in R peri-rectal/adrenal region – collection.
The interpretation by the oncology surgeon goes as below:
The fat around the infected part of the rectum (tumour) got burnt and the tumor is pushed into the uterus wall.
There may be some UN-identified liquid in a small region in-between the rectum and uterus.
It may be due to a perforation in the tumour.
To better investigate he wanted to perform a “CT Pelvis and Rectal Contrast” wherein he would inject some white liquid through the anus and perform the CT. If the injected white liquid is found in the UN-identified liquid then a perforation can be confirmed.

I am confused now.
Please advice how to proceed.

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Answered by Dr. Deepak Sundriyal (7 hours later)
Brief Answer:
The oncology surgeon is right

Detailed Answer:
Hello dear. So you yourself have made several. Points clearly in favour of oncologic surgeon. First of all a ct of chest is must to rule out distant disease which your colo surgeon missed. Secondly, although a surgeon or a cancer surgeon can read ct scan, only a radiologist is expert enough to give the report as it is his jurisdiction as nobody would like to buy apples from a electrician. Thirdly, if there is a doubt regarding perforation, ideal investigation again is a rectal contrast ct which your cancer surgeon advised but missed by colo surgeon.
I still dont beleive, there is a perforation as i said earlier, patient cant survive a perforation without sustaining complication for a few days. Moreover, i will take only a written report of perforation from radiologist as proof. It is also necessary from. Medicolegal point of view.
The principles of cancer surgery are different from general surgery and thats why there is a 3years further specialisation called Mch in oncology surgery and DMDNB in medical. Oncology. Otherwise evrybdy will be treating cancer patients.
3years is a big period of life and sacrifice to study cancer.
Cancer surgeon has given you appropriate approach as i mentioned, chemo rt first.
Follow his advice to give your patient maximal. Survival. Mark my words.
Thanks and regards
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Follow up: Dr. Deepak Sundriyal (41 hours later)
Thanks for the clear explanation. I am going to get her treated by an oncology surgeon only.

Uploaded new reports of MRI done last day.
Please interpret them and explain.

Can you please prescribe the treatment by looking at the MRI?

Is it ok to go for chemoradiations. I mean how to overcome the side-affects?

Thanks in advance XXXXXXX Gajula
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Answered by Dr. Deepak Sundriyal (7 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Hello. Chemoradiation then surgery and then chemo

Detailed Answer:
Hello dear. So the plan of treatment remains same. Chemoradiation followed by surgery and then chemo. Total duratuon of treatment around 8 months. Side effects of radiation will be pain and burning sensation in rectal. Area. Mild diarrhea, bleeding. Side of chemo will be diarrhea, pain abdomen and hand foot syndrome. These side effects may or may not occur and if they occur, are easily manageable. So no need to worry.
Thanks and regards
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What Does The Following Biopsy Report When Diagnosed With Rectal Cancer Indicate?

Brief Answer: Usual sequence is chemo-radiotherapy followed by surgery Detailed Answer: Hello dear. I have gone through the details. So She has a rectal cancer which appears to be in locally advanced stage due to enlarged nodes. Exact staging can be decided only after surgery. As per the ct scan reports, there is no evidence of any perforation. Clinically also, a patient of perforation has to be treated immediately and should not wait for 11 days as CT scan is dated 11 days back. So in my opinion, there is no perforation. The usual sequence of treatment in such a case is chemo-rt followed by surgery ans then chemotherapy. The chances of cure will be around 30 to 40 percent. Cancer Surgery should be done by a certified cancer surgeon only and not a colo-rectal surgeon. Thanks and regards