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Is HIV Transmission Possible Via Genital Rubbing And Frottage?

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Posted on Wed, 20 Sep 2023
Question: Hi Doctor,
I have a question about HIV transmission. I went to a bachelor party at a strip club. I had a lot of dances and grinding throughout the night. Near the end of the night a dancer took me back and started dancing for me. She took out me penis and I wasn't really sure what was going on pretty intoxicated. The dancer then put it down and sat on the shaft of my penis probably for 30 seconds or maybe a bit longer. At that time she still had her dress on but I realized she did not have any underwear on. So her vagina was definitly on the shaft of my penis. I stopped her and pulled up my pants. She did continue to dance on me with pants on and I ejaculated in my pants. I had many other dancers throughout the night with pants on.
I am almost certain before I got up to pull up my pants the tip of my penis touched the outside or maybe inter lips of the vagina as she stood up.
My question is this a possible a way to transmit HIV? I did not think it was but since then 3 weeks out had server runny nose swollen node under arm pit. Then 6 weeks after could not even lift the weight I use to lift for warm ups when working out. Also developed Angular Chilitis about 8 weeks out as well.
I do have genital herpes but did not have an outbreak at the time. I have read this can contribute to transmission.
If I could get some feed back on this I would really appreciate it. I cant believe I am in this situation but I am some how. Thank you for your time.
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Answered by Dr. Sanjay Kini (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Get a HIV test done

Detailed Answer:

Hello,

HIV can get transmitted by sexual contact. If the lady has HIV and if her vaginal secretions come in contact with penis then there is a chance of getting HIV infection.

But you aren't sure whether the lady had HIV or not. After all she is not a prostitute. She is strip club dancer. I guess a strip club will not hire someone with a disease like HIV. Therefore, the chances of you getting HIV is minimal.

Still if you want to completely rule it out, then you need to get HIV ELISA test done at 3 months and 6 months. If the tests are negative then you do not have HIV. There are some tests which give quick results like P24 antigen test and PCR test. Though its bit costly still you can get these tests.

Right now, the only option for you is that you need to be bit patient and get these blood tests done. Need to wait for the result.

Be cautious henceforth not to have sex with unknown people. Be in a monogamous relationship with a faithful partner.

Hope I have answered your query. Let me know if I can assist you further.

Regards,
Dr. Sanjay Kini
General & Family Physician
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Follow up: Dr. Sanjay Kini (11 hours later)
So as far as symptom's weakness in one side of the body particular the right shoulder and tricep. Angular Chelitlitis, swollen lymph node in he shoulder blade? All seem like suymptoms?

Are there lymph nodes in the back shoulder blade?

Will the penis feel numb in the seroconversion period of HIV????

Thank you for your time.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sanjay Kini (10 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Wait patiently and get your blood tests done

Detailed Answer:

Hello,

Symptoms of angular chelitis can be due to HIV. However, it need not necessarily be only due to that. There can be other non infective causes also like vitamin deficiency. There are no superficial lymph nodes near the shoulder blade. It is present near the arm pit. Numbness of penis is a non specific symptom. It is not related to HIV. Maybe it is your psychological feeling.

You need to wait patiently and get your blood tests done.

Hope I have answered your query. Let me know if I can assist you further.

Regards,
Dr. Sanjay Kini
General & Family Physician
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Remy Koshy
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Follow up: Dr. Sanjay Kini (31 hours later)
ok thank you Dr.

Another question would a single genital on the head of the penis be a early sign of serocoverion of HIV. Was probably on the my penis for about 6 days and then went away. I think I first saw it 3 weeks after the incident. I appreciate you responding to my questions.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sanjay Kini (8 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Non specific symptom

Detailed Answer:

Hello,

The symptoms which you mentioned are non specific and it is not possible to tell conclusively whether its due to seroconversion or not. However, my suggestion is do not worry. The possibility of contracting HIV is very minimal. Patiently wait and get the tests done.

Hope I have answered your query. Let me know if I can assist you further.

Regards,
Dr. Sanjay Kini
General & Family Physician
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Kampana
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Follow up: Dr. Sanjay Kini (2 days later)
Ok thank you I understand.

Last question which I am not sure if you can answer and doesn't really concern me but something I am wondering about.

When they say flu like symptoms with seroconversion do you get the actual flu. Meaning you would go to the Flu clinic and test positive for the flu? Like type B FLU????

Or is just symptoms like the flu?

Thank you.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sanjay Kini (2 hours later)
Brief Answer:
It's just flu like symptoms and nothing like lab tested

Detailed Answer:

Hello,

It is just flu like symptoms. since the immunity comes down even small infection like flu will take a longer time to subside.

Hope I have answered your query.

Regards,
Dr. Sanjay Kini
General & Family Physician
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Is HIV Transmission Possible Via Genital Rubbing And Frottage?

Brief Answer: Get a HIV test done Detailed Answer: Hello, HIV can get transmitted by sexual contact. If the lady has HIV and if her vaginal secretions come in contact with penis then there is a chance of getting HIV infection. But you aren't sure whether the lady had HIV or not. After all she is not a prostitute. She is strip club dancer. I guess a strip club will not hire someone with a disease like HIV. Therefore, the chances of you getting HIV is minimal. Still if you want to completely rule it out, then you need to get HIV ELISA test done at 3 months and 6 months. If the tests are negative then you do not have HIV. There are some tests which give quick results like P24 antigen test and PCR test. Though its bit costly still you can get these tests. Right now, the only option for you is that you need to be bit patient and get these blood tests done. Need to wait for the result. Be cautious henceforth not to have sex with unknown people. Be in a monogamous relationship with a faithful partner. Hope I have answered your query. Let me know if I can assist you further. Regards, Dr. Sanjay Kini General & Family Physician