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Question: Hi Dr.
Since I am only allowed to answer the final question. It would be a long one. I want to know whether it would be a risk to contract HIV in following scenarios. PLEASE answer One-by One:

Scenario one:
After baby delivery, my husband and I started to use lubricant when having sex. I always check whether the lubricant has been used already before the first time I used it. But the most recent time I did not. I am worried what if someone has used it and returned to XXXXXXX and XXXXXXX then sold to me again. The opening of the lubricant tube and part of the lubricant at the top may be contaminated with other people's body fluid (vagina discharge or tiny blood in those discharge) in that case. Then I am worried whether I would contract any virus like HPV, HIV, or STD when I use to lubricate my vagina. I got this tube from XXXXXXX 3 had half weeks ago. Am I at any risk?

Scenario two:
Similar two the scenario one, if I get some hand cream, lip cream etc from the grocery store and really don’t know whether it has been used by others before. Should I worry about transfection if I have cracked lip, cracked hands or broken pimple when I apply those products?

Scenario three:
I know I might catch COIVD-19 from the surface. How about HIV? If I touch some public surface such as door handle of public washroom where might be some suspicious things but I don’t know. After that before I washing hands I may rub my eyes, pick pimples or pick fingers to be a little bleeding. Am I at risk to contract HIV virus in those way?

Scenario four:
Similar to the scenario three, what if I touched something dirty, and then touched my handphone. Later even I washed my hands, will I catch HIV on my finger again from my phone if I touch my handphones? Will I then be infected if I rub eye, pick pimple, or pick finger?
Thanks
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Hi Dr.
Since I am only allowed to answer the final question. It would be a long one. I want to know whether it would be a risk to contract HIV in following scenarios. PLEASE answer One-by One:

Scenario one:
After baby delivery, my husband and I started to use lubricant when having sex. I always check whether the lubricant has been used already before the first time I used it. But the most recent time I did not. I am worried what if someone has used it and returned to XXXXXXX and XXXXXXX then sold to me again. The opening of the lubricant tube and part of the lubricant at the top may be contaminated with other people's body fluid (vagina discharge or tiny blood in those discharge) in that case. Then I am worried whether I would contract any virus like HPV, HIV, or STD when I use to lubricate my vagina. I got this tube from XXXXXXX 3 had half weeks ago. Am I at any risk?

Scenario two:
Similar two the scenario one, if I get some hand cream, lip cream etc from the grocery store and really don’t know whether it has been used by others before. Should I worry about transfection if I have cracked lip, cracked hands or broken pimple when I apply those products?

Scenario three:
I know I might catch COIVD-19 from the surface. How about HIV? If I touch some public surface such as door handle of public washroom where might be some suspicious things but I don’t know. After that before I washing hands I may rub my eyes, pick pimples or pick fingers to be a little bleeding. Am I at risk to contract HIV virus in those way?

Scenario four:
Similar to the scenario three, what if I touched something dirty, and then touched my handphone. Later even I washed my hands, will I catch HIV on my finger again from my phone if I touch my handphones? Will I then be infected if I rub eye, pick pimple, or pick finger?
Thanks
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
No risk of transmission of HIV /STD in these routes

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome to Ask A Doctor.
Thanks for posting your query.
Almost the answer to the four scenarios explained by you have the same answer.
HIV can not survive outside the body fluids for not more than few seconds. In presence of chemicals, present in lubricating, gel, hand and lip creams, are inimical to not only HIV but also most of the STI organisms. So they cannot survive in this environment for a fraction of a second, even they were get contaminated with infectious materials like blood and vaginal secretions. Almost all these gels, creams etc. can't be reused as a new one . All will have some sort seal when you open any pack.
Morever transmission of HIV through handling, door knobs, toiletteries also almost nil. HIV is known to human kind for the past 40 years. If it got transmitted by this way almost all the world population would have been affected. Once again HIV cannot survive over the inanimate objects not more than few seconds.
Covid19 is transmitted through aerosol and droplets deposited on the floor and objects. So the rate of spread is enormous all over the world. If one can get HIV infection in this route, imagine the casualties during these 40 year period. Fortunately it is not so. HIV can be transmitted only through exchange of body fluids. You need not worry at all about HIV infection by the mode of transmission explained by you.
Dr S Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Nagamani Ng
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
No risk of transmission of HIV /STD in these routes

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome to Ask A Doctor.
Thanks for posting your query.
Almost the answer to the four scenarios explained by you have the same answer.
HIV can not survive outside the body fluids for not more than few seconds. In presence of chemicals, present in lubricating, gel, hand and lip creams, are inimical to not only HIV but also most of the STI organisms. So they cannot survive in this environment for a fraction of a second, even they were get contaminated with infectious materials like blood and vaginal secretions. Almost all these gels, creams etc. can't be reused as a new one . All will have some sort seal when you open any pack.
Morever transmission of HIV through handling, door knobs, toiletteries also almost nil. HIV is known to human kind for the past 40 years. If it got transmitted by this way almost all the world population would have been affected. Once again HIV cannot survive over the inanimate objects not more than few seconds.
Covid19 is transmitted through aerosol and droplets deposited on the floor and objects. So the rate of spread is enormous all over the world. If one can get HIV infection in this route, imagine the casualties during these 40 year period. Fortunately it is not so. HIV can be transmitted only through exchange of body fluids. You need not worry at all about HIV infection by the mode of transmission explained by you.
Dr S Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Nagamani Ng
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (23 hours later)
Dear Dr. XXXXXXX
Thanks for your detailed reply. I have a followup regarding the cream, gel and lipstick. I understood that most of them have the seal. But some of them indeed do not have the seal. Even some toothpaste, they just do not have seal and can squeeze out directly after opening the cap. But can I understand that for those things, I still can not catch HIV or STD even if it might be contaminated by HIV body fluid since you said that by the time I received and started to use them, the virus should die already since it has been a few days later?
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Dear Dr. XXXXXXX
Thanks for your detailed reply. I have a followup regarding the cream, gel and lipstick. I understood that most of them have the seal. But some of them indeed do not have the seal. Even some toothpaste, they just do not have seal and can squeeze out directly after opening the cap. But can I understand that for those things, I still can not catch HIV or STD even if it might be contaminated by HIV body fluid since you said that by the time I received and started to use them, the virus should die already since it has been a few days later?
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (2 hours later)
Brief Answer:
There is no possibility of HIV transmission in this way.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
Yes, You are absolutely right.
Almost all gels,creams (Tooth paste may be exception) came with some type sealing. Outside the cap or inside the cap or have to prick the seal. Even talcum powder or shampoo are coming with seal. Moreover it is difficult to refill manually and needs the help of appropriate machines. It will not be difficult to identify partially used one.
Out of all these possibilities, if you consider that it has been contaminated with HIV infectious materials, then also there is no possibility to get a new infection by using the same as you rightly pointed out HIV cannot survive outside the body fluids not more than few seconds and especially in such media.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Kampana
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
There is no possibility of HIV transmission in this way.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
Yes, You are absolutely right.
Almost all gels,creams (Tooth paste may be exception) came with some type sealing. Outside the cap or inside the cap or have to prick the seal. Even talcum powder or shampoo are coming with seal. Moreover it is difficult to refill manually and needs the help of appropriate machines. It will not be difficult to identify partially used one.
Out of all these possibilities, if you consider that it has been contaminated with HIV infectious materials, then also there is no possibility to get a new infection by using the same as you rightly pointed out HIV cannot survive outside the body fluids not more than few seconds and especially in such media.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Kampana
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (4 days later)
Hi Dr. Thanks for your prompt reply. Since healtcaremagic platform does not allow me to ask many questions related to the same topic even I am an unlimited subscriber. Actually, this would be the final question that I could ask. So do you mind me asking a few follow-ups that are quite related to this issue?
1. I am living in an apartment that provides some common laundry machines for all residence to share. Is there any risk to contract HIV virus from the laundry machine? for example, my previous user washed the clothes with some menstrual blood or body fluid on it, and then I used the laundry machine to wash my clothes, including underwear too. I am a female and If I wear the panties that been washed from such a machine. Is there any risk?
2. Similar questions applied to dry machines and dishwasher. If I rent an apartment, and there are some bloodstain or residues left in dry-machine and dishwashers and I don't know and I used them to dry my clothes and do dish washes. Will I catch HIV from the clothes and dishes when using them later? Thanks for your patience and I will rank you high after finishing communicator
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Hi Dr. Thanks for your prompt reply. Since healtcaremagic platform does not allow me to ask many questions related to the same topic even I am an unlimited subscriber. Actually, this would be the final question that I could ask. So do you mind me asking a few follow-ups that are quite related to this issue?
1. I am living in an apartment that provides some common laundry machines for all residence to share. Is there any risk to contract HIV virus from the laundry machine? for example, my previous user washed the clothes with some menstrual blood or body fluid on it, and then I used the laundry machine to wash my clothes, including underwear too. I am a female and If I wear the panties that been washed from such a machine. Is there any risk?
2. Similar questions applied to dry machines and dishwasher. If I rent an apartment, and there are some bloodstain or residues left in dry-machine and dishwashers and I don't know and I used them to dry my clothes and do dish washes. Will I catch HIV from the clothes and dishes when using them later? Thanks for your patience and I will rank you high after finishing communicator
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
You are safe. The HIV risk is almost 'nil'

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
The same answers for both. Answer may be a repetition to that of your previous questions.
1. Transmission risk of HIV through inanimate objects is negligible.
2. HIV cannot be viable outside the body fluids not more than few seconds.
3. Detergents, Cleansing agents and heat are detrimental to HIV.
So you would not get HIV through the ways mentioned by you.
Dr S.Murugan

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
You are safe. The HIV risk is almost 'nil'

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
The same answers for both. Answer may be a repetition to that of your previous questions.
1. Transmission risk of HIV through inanimate objects is negligible.
2. HIV cannot be viable outside the body fluids not more than few seconds.
3. Detergents, Cleansing agents and heat are detrimental to HIV.
So you would not get HIV through the ways mentioned by you.
Dr S.Murugan

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 days later)
Dr. Thanks for your reply. One final question: if I touched some dirty surface that may be contaminated with body fluid (vagina discharge or blood in the public toilet) and washed my hands roughly, which means I may not clean the part in the nails and around the fingertip totally, later I scratch my pimple to a little bit bleed. There should be no risk am I right? Thanks
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Dr. Thanks for your reply. One final question: if I touched some dirty surface that may be contaminated with body fluid (vagina discharge or blood in the public toilet) and washed my hands roughly, which means I may not clean the part in the nails and around the fingertip totally, later I scratch my pimple to a little bit bleed. There should be no risk am I right? Thanks
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (31 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
HIV transmission risk is negligible

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
If you happened to touch biological waste, possibly contaminated with body fluids of HIV Infected individual and if there is a micro or visible abrasion or a healing injury over your fingers and if the body fluid not yet get dried, then there is a possibility of HIV transmission is possible.
It cannot spread through the roughly washed hands! and manipulating your face or pimples, you will not get the disease. HIV will not enter through intact skin. Moreover it cannot be viable outside environment for not more than few seconds.
Dr S Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
HIV transmission risk is negligible

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
If you happened to touch biological waste, possibly contaminated with body fluids of HIV Infected individual and if there is a micro or visible abrasion or a healing injury over your fingers and if the body fluid not yet get dried, then there is a possibility of HIV transmission is possible.
It cannot spread through the roughly washed hands! and manipulating your face or pimples, you will not get the disease. HIV will not enter through intact skin. Moreover it cannot be viable outside environment for not more than few seconds.
Dr S Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Vaishalee Punj
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (2 days later)
Hi Dr. I think I have some concerns regarding touching the suspicious body fluid. I once visited the supermarket and after checking out, I noticed some brown stains on my hand and it looks like blood but I cannot tell what it is. and my hand was kind of dry due to dry weather and had minor cuts due to fingerpick (as attached figure). They were/are not bleeding but I could feel a little bit of pain when I apply alcohol-based hand sanitizer. Some doctors said that those are not open wounds considered as HIV infection. But based on your explanation, it sounds like to be open would for HIV infection. Could you please kindly verify that? I feel so scared regarding this incident.

Secondly, do you mean that even I get some virus on my hand and I did not get all of them washed away properly, after a short period of time (maybe the time when I washing my hands), the virus should not be vital at all to cause transmission even I manipulated my pimple to be a little bit bleeding?
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Hi Dr. I think I have some concerns regarding touching the suspicious body fluid. I once visited the supermarket and after checking out, I noticed some brown stains on my hand and it looks like blood but I cannot tell what it is. and my hand was kind of dry due to dry weather and had minor cuts due to fingerpick (as attached figure). They were/are not bleeding but I could feel a little bit of pain when I apply alcohol-based hand sanitizer. Some doctors said that those are not open wounds considered as HIV infection. But based on your explanation, it sounds like to be open would for HIV infection. Could you please kindly verify that? I feel so scared regarding this incident.

Secondly, do you mean that even I get some virus on my hand and I did not get all of them washed away properly, after a short period of time (maybe the time when I washing my hands), the virus should not be vital at all to cause transmission even I manipulated my pimple to be a little bit bleeding?
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
HIV transmission is not possible through the wts explained you.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
No figure was attached in this site with your query.

HIV is not transmitted through inanimate objects such as the pockets or articles present in any super market as it can not be viable outside the body fluids for more than few seconds. Even if you handled a blood stain in the super market, you cannot get the disease unless the blood is a fresh and wet specimen and you have cuts in your fingers. That could be a very remote possibility in a super market situation.

HIV cannot pass through intact skin. It will be get rid of by washing hands with soap and water. There is no question of remaining there and transmitted when you are manipulated pimples over face or during washing the face.
Dr S.Murugan

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
HIV transmission is not possible through the wts explained you.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
No figure was attached in this site with your query.

HIV is not transmitted through inanimate objects such as the pockets or articles present in any super market as it can not be viable outside the body fluids for more than few seconds. Even if you handled a blood stain in the super market, you cannot get the disease unless the blood is a fresh and wet specimen and you have cuts in your fingers. That could be a very remote possibility in a super market situation.

HIV cannot pass through intact skin. It will be get rid of by washing hands with soap and water. There is no question of remaining there and transmitted when you are manipulated pimples over face or during washing the face.
Dr S.Murugan

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (2 hours later)
Hi Dr. Sorry, I think I did not click "upload" in the previous message. I re-attached the figure for you. The reason I got worried about the supermarket scenario because the specimens should not be totally dry otherwise it could not be on my hands.

I understood that washing with soap water can get virus washed away. I just worried that if my nails have not been cleaned totally since they are more difficult to clean than palm, would the virus be transmitted when I manipulated the pimple.

Really appreciate your patience.
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Hi Dr. Sorry, I think I did not click "upload" in the previous message. I re-attached the figure for you. The reason I got worried about the supermarket scenario because the specimens should not be totally dry otherwise it could not be on my hands.

I understood that washing with soap water can get virus washed away. I just worried that if my nails have not been cleaned totally since they are more difficult to clean than palm, would the virus be transmitted when I manipulated the pimple.

Really appreciate your patience.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (55 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Your HIV risk is negligible.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
I am able to see the abrasions or excoriations on your fingers in the images sent by you. I can understand your concerns.
But so far it is unheard such a type of transmission of HIV infection from a super market in my thirty five years of experience with HIV practice either in my patients or from my colleagues in this field all over the world as I am in touch with many with the help of journals and through conferences and various meetings..
Even if there is some sticky things over the packing in a super market or a mol, HIV can not survive outside not more than few seconds. So you will not get HIV through handling things in a shopping center. Not to worry.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
doctor
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (0 minute later)
Brief Answer:
Your HIV risk is negligible.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
I am able to see the abrasions or excoriations on your fingers in the images sent by you. I can understand your concerns.
But so far it is unheard such a type of transmission of HIV infection from a super market in my thirty five years of experience with HIV practice either in my patients or from my colleagues in this field all over the world as I am in touch with many with the help of journals and through conferences and various meetings..
Even if there is some sticky things over the packing in a super market or a mol, HIV can not survive outside not more than few seconds. So you will not get HIV through handling things in a shopping center. Not to worry.
Dr S.Murugan
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Hi Dr. Since I am only allowed to answer the final question. It would be a long one. I want to know whether it would be a risk to contract HIV in following scenarios. PLEASE answer One-by One: Scenario one: After baby delivery, my husband and I started to use lubricant when having sex. I always check whether the lubricant has been used already before the first time I used it. But the most recent time I did not. I am worried what if someone has used it and returned to XXXXXXX and XXXXXXX then sold to me again. The opening of the lubricant tube and part of the lubricant at the top may be contaminated with other people's body fluid (vagina discharge or tiny blood in those discharge) in that case. Then I am worried whether I would contract any virus like HPV, HIV, or STD when I use to lubricate my vagina. I got this tube from XXXXXXX 3 had half weeks ago. Am I at any risk? Scenario two: Similar two the scenario one, if I get some hand cream, lip cream etc from the grocery store and really don’t know whether it has been used by others before. Should I worry about transfection if I have cracked lip, cracked hands or broken pimple when I apply those products? Scenario three: I know I might catch COIVD-19 from the surface. How about HIV? If I touch some public surface such as door handle of public washroom where might be some suspicious things but I don’t know. After that before I washing hands I may rub my eyes, pick pimples or pick fingers to be a little bleeding. Am I at risk to contract HIV virus in those way? Scenario four: Similar to the scenario three, what if I touched something dirty, and then touched my handphone. Later even I washed my hands, will I catch HIV on my finger again from my phone if I touch my handphones? Will I then be infected if I rub eye, pick pimple, or pick finger? Thanks