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Can Geniux Be Taken After Recovering From Cerebral Haemorrhage And Venous Thrombosis?
Question: A patient of mine likes to order the brain power boosting med named Geniux"" which has the five ingredients of : GABA, Huperzine A, Tyrosine, vinpocetine and Bacopa Monieriere.
He recently recovered from cerebral hemorrhage and combined with several venous thrombosis and on a slew of medications. My feeling is that he should refer this question to his own physician. Only because of being a family friend that I was asked about this question, whether he should take this 'Brain boosting medication "Geniux" or not? What is your opinion ? Many thanks.
From Dr. Cheung ( I am a Thoracic Vascular Surgeon (of seven years residency/Precepteeship) with three other Specialty Boards), and a former chief of the Department of Medicine and Family practice (being one of my specialty was Emergency Medicine which at the time was included into the Department of Medicine)
Many thanks
He recently recovered from cerebral hemorrhage and combined with several venous thrombosis and on a slew of medications. My feeling is that he should refer this question to his own physician. Only because of being a family friend that I was asked about this question, whether he should take this 'Brain boosting medication "Geniux" or not? What is your opinion ? Many thanks.
From Dr. Cheung ( I am a Thoracic Vascular Surgeon (of seven years residency/Precepteeship) with three other Specialty Boards), and a former chief of the Department of Medicine and Family practice (being one of my specialty was Emergency Medicine which at the time was included into the Department of Medicine)
Many thanks
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Hello dear colleague and welcome to HealthcareMagic. I read your question carefully and I appreciate you choosing our site.
Regarding your perplexity on the patient having both thrombosis and hemorrhage you should know that that is often the case if the primary diagnosis is cerebral venous thrombosis. The primary event is the thrombosis which in turn by obstructing venous return, apart from venous infarctions is often complicated with hemorrhage due to rupture of the veins from the increased pressure. Because the origin of that hemorrhage is in the venous thrombosis the treatment is towards the origin, so anticoagulation which has been shown not to have a negative impact on the hemorrhage, on the contrary.
As for your direct question on Geniux....there are many such products in the market, either separate ingredients or combinations of different ones. Apart from Geniux components I could mention gliatiline, cerebrolysine, ipidacrine, piracetam, neuraid etc etc, some may be available in your country some not. At the end of the day though there is no scientific evidence for any of those products, no convincing studies to show any effect, I am sorry.
Neuroaid is the newest addition in the block, supported by some prominent stroke authorities, supported by the Chimes study, perhaps the most popular product right now. Although personally I still am not convinced by it, need more proof, it is the one product I would try.
I remain at your disposal for other questions.
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Hello dear colleague and welcome to HealthcareMagic. I read your question carefully and I appreciate you choosing our site.
Regarding your perplexity on the patient having both thrombosis and hemorrhage you should know that that is often the case if the primary diagnosis is cerebral venous thrombosis. The primary event is the thrombosis which in turn by obstructing venous return, apart from venous infarctions is often complicated with hemorrhage due to rupture of the veins from the increased pressure. Because the origin of that hemorrhage is in the venous thrombosis the treatment is towards the origin, so anticoagulation which has been shown not to have a negative impact on the hemorrhage, on the contrary.
As for your direct question on Geniux....there are many such products in the market, either separate ingredients or combinations of different ones. Apart from Geniux components I could mention gliatiline, cerebrolysine, ipidacrine, piracetam, neuraid etc etc, some may be available in your country some not. At the end of the day though there is no scientific evidence for any of those products, no convincing studies to show any effect, I am sorry.
Neuroaid is the newest addition in the block, supported by some prominent stroke authorities, supported by the Chimes study, perhaps the most popular product right now. Although personally I still am not convinced by it, need more proof, it is the one product I would try.
I remain at your disposal for other questions.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
Needless to say, for patients with postcerebral event on rehab, this type of advertizing (as shown in uploaded screen copy 1,2,3) is very attractive for the family (sometimes for us physicians as well).
Brief Answer:
So true
Detailed Answer:
I know it is true. Patients and their close ones do not want to resign to the idea that there is no medicine for them and want to believe such promises served to them by the companies.
I confess when they really insist I even agree at times, but only after making it clear that the benefit of the product is not proven.
So true
Detailed Answer:
I know it is true. Patients and their close ones do not want to resign to the idea that there is no medicine for them and want to believe such promises served to them by the companies.
I confess when they really insist I even agree at times, but only after making it clear that the benefit of the product is not proven.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
Hi, I have provided some attachments. Please review them.
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Actually I did see them. Again, a lot of claims but not a grain of proof.
Believe me I have a heap of leaflets on my desk left from pharmaceutical companies representatives, Neuroaid, Brainil, Nootropil, Neiromidine etc. They all look nice, while they may contain different colors, images, fancy names or slogans, they all end up claiming the same thing, enhancing brain function or its regeneration after an injury.
I would dearly hope it to be true, to be able to offer some prescription other than physiotherapy to stroke patients in order to enhance their improvement, would make me feel so much better. Perhaps in time some effective product will come out, but with the myriad of commercial offers in front of me, I can only recommend what is proven by repeated unbiased clinical trials.
Up to now I am yet to see such a proven product, I hope I will soon. For now though, all I can recommend is physiotherapy as well as identifying the cause or risk factors in order to prevent a stroke recurrence.
I hope to have been of help.
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Detailed Answer:
Actually I did see them. Again, a lot of claims but not a grain of proof.
Believe me I have a heap of leaflets on my desk left from pharmaceutical companies representatives, Neuroaid, Brainil, Nootropil, Neiromidine etc. They all look nice, while they may contain different colors, images, fancy names or slogans, they all end up claiming the same thing, enhancing brain function or its regeneration after an injury.
I would dearly hope it to be true, to be able to offer some prescription other than physiotherapy to stroke patients in order to enhance their improvement, would make me feel so much better. Perhaps in time some effective product will come out, but with the myriad of commercial offers in front of me, I can only recommend what is proven by repeated unbiased clinical trials.
Up to now I am yet to see such a proven product, I hope I will soon. For now though, all I can recommend is physiotherapy as well as identifying the cause or risk factors in order to prevent a stroke recurrence.
I hope to have been of help.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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