I am on day 3 of stopping tramadol for bone on bone arthritis pain. I was taking up to 400 mg's a day and when I started needed a 9th pill, I thought this is fucking ridiculous. My first 24 hours was loose stools, sweating, chills, extreme pain on day 2, but day 3 I'm feeling a lot better. I'm still not sleeping. Night 1 was horrible restless arm syndrome and I got about 30 mins sleep. I was in fits. Night 2, no restless arms, about 3 hours sleep. I've took a Mag/sulf bath before bed, which I believe is why I slept a "bit" better. Today, I received my Avena Sativa tincture and I will try it tonight. My main concern is my bone on bone pain. After 3 years of tramadol, which I'm guessing was hard on my liver, should I use Ibuprofen or tylenol? I know that ibu taxes kidneys and tylenol taxes livers, correct? I just want to be able to walk correctly again.