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What Causes Irritation In The Gastrointestinal Tract?

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Posted on Wed, 4 Feb 2015
Question: Hello again..Before couple of weeks i had this thread:
http://www.healthcaremagic.com/AskDoctorInboxServlet?page=viewQuery&queryId=160152

So update..I changed protein,i stopped probiotics,i stopped multi test(suspesion) and for around a week i was only taking tren acetate,boldenone,deca 4 times a week(1ml from each,each time so total 4ml of each for the week)..
So for around 11 days nothing stomach was great no GORD happened, around the 9th day i started test cypionate brand new bottle and arond 10th day i hit the XXXXXXX test enanthate also(250mg of test in each ml cypionate or enanthate) and yesterday here we go again..Stomach bloated,huge GORD kind of diarhhea not so severe though and today i was good only a bit full when i eat and small pains that come and go..

I will stop everything and go for a pct i cant risk it but i would like a proffesional answer..
Is there a possiblity any of these 4 compounds to react with the other and causes the problem cause only when i use test this happens with the other 3 so test might react with any of these?
Or maybe cause i used the XXXXXXX enanthate and also a cypionate 2 days ago?Maybe the enanthate causes me the problem cause everything started week 3 when i introduced the test enanthate in the mix?but then again after 2 weeks i couldn have the problem it was too early for the compounds to hit my body..
Also just to let you knwo i inject everything in a different spot and different syrigne so i never inject lets say tren or deca with test in the same spot or something like that...
Maybe all are compounds that aromatise and i already have too high test and when i inject test also causes me the gord the stomach pains which are around my stomach and belly come and go..

I can also send you photo of the compoounds to see what oils are these cause everything is clear except the tren ace which is orange colour.
Last i m everyday on liv52 ds,silymarin also and vitamin c and multi vitamin for general and liver health and the glaveral i told you for the gord just in case

I really appreciate your kind response and all your help on this issue and sorry for the long post..

XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
In my opinion the cypionate is the more likely culprit

Detailed Answer:
Hello once again XXXXXXX

Good to hear from you again, but sad to know the GERD symptoms have recurred.

Thank you so much for the detailed message, it greatly helps in finding the root cause to the problem. Writing back with the ingredients will not be necessary as I have access to them and can check them out to better understand the condition.

In my opinion, both XXXXXXX testosterone enanthate and cypionate can cause irritation the the gastrointestinal tract (GIT), reasons are that:

1. XXXXXXX testosterone enanthate is a steroid which in itself is enough said. All or most steroids can have various reactions around the body, and GIT irritation is one of them

2. Cypionate: One of the more common side effects among the long list of side effects include the following-

+Irritation
+Indigestion
+Eructation of food
+Belching
+Bitter taste in the mouth caused by stomach contents regurgitating
+Mouth ulcers
+Increased gas production
+Increased amount of gas passed
+Abdominal bloating
+Vomiting
+Swelling of gums
+Stinging of lips
and many others.

I have only listed the symptoms associated with GERD and those which can aggravate the condition.

In my personal opinion and experience with these substances, steroids very rarely cause such a reaction and aggravation of GERD symptoms. In my opinion the cypionate was the more likely culprit. I would also like to add that the liv 52, silymarin and multiple vitamins will help protect the liver and thus reduce or neutralise the side effects of the steroids and so making the possibility of side effects from cypionate more likely.

I hope I have explained things in a manner best understood by you sir. Please feel free to write back to me for any further clarifications, I would be more than happy to help. If you do not mind me adding, in the future with any new queries, please mention my name and address them to me so it would be easier for the team to help send the query to me quicker. I really appreciate your understanding.

Best wishes sir.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (37 minutes later)
I really appreciate your ansers and help..you are really helping me out.

The thing i cant understand is why this happend from test? I ve used test before with no such symptoms.

In your opinion i should stop both tests? I was using sustanon same,using sustanon and XXXXXXX same, changed to cypionate and XXXXXXX same..should i stop all of them? Stick only with XXXXXXX is it safer than cypionate cause both are 250mg/ml

I cant understand exactly why this is happening only when i add test with the other 3 compounds..

I m really glad you are helping me here

Also to add up the multi test 350 i was using at first wgich i changed to cypionate had
test propionate 42mg
test phenylpropionate 84mg
test isocsproate 84mg
test decanoate 140mg
for a total of 350mg/ml
so no cypionate or enanthate in it
why cypionate again casuing problems..
maybe its norma?
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Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (9 hours later)
Brief Answer:
I am glad I can be of service sir

Detailed Answer:
Hello once again sir.

I would be more than happy to help and explain.

GERD itself is a condition very commonly seen and encountered in atheletes. Mainly because of the strenuous workout, diet regimes, stress, etc. A lot of stomach acid is produced from vigorous exercise which can harm the inner lining of the mucosa of the stomach or even the stomachs sphincters.

Now imagine, a healthy young man trying to run a marathon and succeeding. But after the same man has for example, an injured knee and then he tries running the marathon, it is going to be difficult for him right?

The same way, I am assuming you did not have any symptoms of GERD prior to the use of testosterone the first time. But due to your exercise regimen, you could have developed to condition which now gets aggravated by the use of specific testosterone supplements.

I hope I have explained things in a manner best understood by you. Please do not hesitate to write back to me for any further clarifications sir, I am always here to help.

Also, in my opinion you could stop cypionate for a while and see if your symptoms improve, if they do then you can continue using XXXXXXX But if your symptoms persist, discontinue XXXXXXX and use cypionate. If your symptoms then dissappear we know the cause, but if they do not then we may have to discontinue both.

Best of luck sir.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (1 hour later)
Thanks again..
i did multiple search yesterday in all compounds and found out the trenbolone acetate causes heartburn and acid reflux and night sweats which i also have and all of these mainly at night which all of these happens to be at night, to hundreds of users and thats the cause...some were taking zantac some baking soda some apple vinegar..so its not gerd exactly. .

I ll stop tren amd see how it goes..

Thanks for all the assist
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Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (22 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Great news!! Hope this works

Detailed Answer:
Hello once again sir.

Thats great news. If at all discontinuation of tren helps resolve the problem, then we have struck gold.

I wish you loads of luck sir. Please feel free to write back to me for any further clarifications, I am always here to help.

Best wishes.
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What Causes Irritation In The Gastrointestinal Tract?

Brief Answer: In my opinion the cypionate is the more likely culprit Detailed Answer: Hello once again XXXXXXX Good to hear from you again, but sad to know the GERD symptoms have recurred. Thank you so much for the detailed message, it greatly helps in finding the root cause to the problem. Writing back with the ingredients will not be necessary as I have access to them and can check them out to better understand the condition. In my opinion, both XXXXXXX testosterone enanthate and cypionate can cause irritation the the gastrointestinal tract (GIT), reasons are that: 1. XXXXXXX testosterone enanthate is a steroid which in itself is enough said. All or most steroids can have various reactions around the body, and GIT irritation is one of them 2. Cypionate: One of the more common side effects among the long list of side effects include the following- +Irritation +Indigestion +Eructation of food +Belching +Bitter taste in the mouth caused by stomach contents regurgitating +Mouth ulcers +Increased gas production +Increased amount of gas passed +Abdominal bloating +Vomiting +Swelling of gums +Stinging of lips and many others. I have only listed the symptoms associated with GERD and those which can aggravate the condition. In my personal opinion and experience with these substances, steroids very rarely cause such a reaction and aggravation of GERD symptoms. In my opinion the cypionate was the more likely culprit. I would also like to add that the liv 52, silymarin and multiple vitamins will help protect the liver and thus reduce or neutralise the side effects of the steroids and so making the possibility of side effects from cypionate more likely. I hope I have explained things in a manner best understood by you sir. Please feel free to write back to me for any further clarifications, I would be more than happy to help. If you do not mind me adding, in the future with any new queries, please mention my name and address them to me so it would be easier for the team to help send the query to me quicker. I really appreciate your understanding. Best wishes sir.