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Suggest Treatment For Left Frontal Benign Stage-II Atypical Meningioma
Question: Hi,
This is regarding health issue of my mom aged 50yrs suffering from Left frontal Benign Stage-II(Atypical) Meningioma from last 5+ years. Brief history of the case is as follows:
August 2012 (Surgery-I)
Pre Diagnosis: She was very fit & active in all her activities. She had no symptoms as such.
Diagnosis : On a fine day, suddenly she got fits/seizures and when CT scan was performed, it was diagnosed with Tumour in brain which was there from last 4 years and had grown in significant size and pressuring other parts. This made mom's right side semi paralysed with difficulty in speaking. So, doctor suggested for an immediate surgery.
Post-Surgery: Doctor couldn't remove tumour completely because of its position(sticked to CNS) and sent the tumour samples to Biopsy. Even post-surgery, mom was unable to use her right half and had difficulty in speaking. For which, doctor said it will improve upon time and by doing physiotherapy.
Biopsy Result: Tumour turned out to be Grade/Stage-I benign tumour and doctor suggested us to not to worry about residual part and it will have less impact as its benign and stage-I tumour and asked to continue the anti-seizures medicines.
Interim:
She was getting unpredictable seizures even after continuing the prescribed medicines and we used to have monthly/quarterly check-ups with the surgery doctor and also MRI scans with/without contrast whenever suggested. Every time he used to say its normal but mom was experiencing very bad days with unpredictable seizures.
April 2014 (Surgery-II)
Pre Diagnosis: As always seizures strike again and this time it was non-stop and continuing for an hour which turned into 2, 3 hours and had to admit her again :(
Diagnosis: It got to know from MRI Scan that tumour’s size again got increased and this time tumour branched out and created sub tumours in different directions and again doctor suggested for surgery, as tumour was too reactive.
Post-Surgery: Again, doctor couldn't remove tumour completely and sent the tumour to biopsy. This time also it had impact on the right limbs.
Biopsy Result: Tumour has upgraded his stage and its now identified to be Stage-II Benign and Atypical tumour which has good chances to recur at a rapid rate. So suggested Radiotherapy right after surgery.
May 2014 (Radio Therapy)
Treatment: 35 days Rapid XXXXXXX Radiotherapy started and mom had to visit for treatment sessions.
Post-Treatment: As usual, she had to experience worse side-effects of the treatment and the seizures have become quite common for her.
Interim:
She was getting unpredictable seizures even after continuing the prescribed medicines and we used to have monthly/quarterly check-ups with the surgery doctor and also MRI scans with/without contrast whenever suggested. Every time he used to say its normal but mom was experiencing very bad days with unpredictable seizures.
May 2017 (Hospitalization-I)
She again was getting prolonged seizures and had to hospitalize her for some time and doctor has added 2 more medicines to the list and again assured that its quite common and normal. But, it was horrible experience even to see. Imagine how bad it would be for mom.
August 2017 (Hospitalization-II)
She again was getting prolonged seizures and had to hospitalize her for some time and doctor has added 1 more medicines to the list and the same thing is going on.
Current Situation
Mom got very much weak because of seizures and giddiness and with powerful medicines and its continuing from last 5 years. I am currently looking for some serious permanent cure for this horrible disease and get rid of it at the earliest and relieve mom from all this, so that she can spend rest of her life happily.
Any suggestions/help would be really appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
XXXX
This is regarding health issue of my mom aged 50yrs suffering from Left frontal Benign Stage-II(Atypical) Meningioma from last 5+ years. Brief history of the case is as follows:
August 2012 (Surgery-I)
Pre Diagnosis: She was very fit & active in all her activities. She had no symptoms as such.
Diagnosis : On a fine day, suddenly she got fits/seizures and when CT scan was performed, it was diagnosed with Tumour in brain which was there from last 4 years and had grown in significant size and pressuring other parts. This made mom's right side semi paralysed with difficulty in speaking. So, doctor suggested for an immediate surgery.
Post-Surgery: Doctor couldn't remove tumour completely because of its position(sticked to CNS) and sent the tumour samples to Biopsy. Even post-surgery, mom was unable to use her right half and had difficulty in speaking. For which, doctor said it will improve upon time and by doing physiotherapy.
Biopsy Result: Tumour turned out to be Grade/Stage-I benign tumour and doctor suggested us to not to worry about residual part and it will have less impact as its benign and stage-I tumour and asked to continue the anti-seizures medicines.
Interim:
She was getting unpredictable seizures even after continuing the prescribed medicines and we used to have monthly/quarterly check-ups with the surgery doctor and also MRI scans with/without contrast whenever suggested. Every time he used to say its normal but mom was experiencing very bad days with unpredictable seizures.
April 2014 (Surgery-II)
Pre Diagnosis: As always seizures strike again and this time it was non-stop and continuing for an hour which turned into 2, 3 hours and had to admit her again :(
Diagnosis: It got to know from MRI Scan that tumour’s size again got increased and this time tumour branched out and created sub tumours in different directions and again doctor suggested for surgery, as tumour was too reactive.
Post-Surgery: Again, doctor couldn't remove tumour completely and sent the tumour to biopsy. This time also it had impact on the right limbs.
Biopsy Result: Tumour has upgraded his stage and its now identified to be Stage-II Benign and Atypical tumour which has good chances to recur at a rapid rate. So suggested Radiotherapy right after surgery.
May 2014 (Radio Therapy)
Treatment: 35 days Rapid XXXXXXX Radiotherapy started and mom had to visit for treatment sessions.
Post-Treatment: As usual, she had to experience worse side-effects of the treatment and the seizures have become quite common for her.
Interim:
She was getting unpredictable seizures even after continuing the prescribed medicines and we used to have monthly/quarterly check-ups with the surgery doctor and also MRI scans with/without contrast whenever suggested. Every time he used to say its normal but mom was experiencing very bad days with unpredictable seizures.
May 2017 (Hospitalization-I)
She again was getting prolonged seizures and had to hospitalize her for some time and doctor has added 2 more medicines to the list and again assured that its quite common and normal. But, it was horrible experience even to see. Imagine how bad it would be for mom.
August 2017 (Hospitalization-II)
She again was getting prolonged seizures and had to hospitalize her for some time and doctor has added 1 more medicines to the list and the same thing is going on.
Current Situation
Mom got very much weak because of seizures and giddiness and with powerful medicines and its continuing from last 5 years. I am currently looking for some serious permanent cure for this horrible disease and get rid of it at the earliest and relieve mom from all this, so that she can spend rest of her life happily.
Any suggestions/help would be really appreciated.
Thanks a lot in advance.
XXXX
Brief Answer:
Need some details
Detailed Answer:
Hi XXXXXXX
I can understand your concern about your mom's status.
I have gone through the history in detail.
As meningioma treatment protocol in Ayurveda is not established as well scientifically but anti tumor drugs are available in Ayurveda. Depends on the nature and size of the tumor we can select the drug.
As the tumour is benign and still gets increasing in size, for this situation, regular anti seizures drugs in Ayurveda will not work for her.
If you please share the MRI report and in which the size and other details could be there so that depends on that we can analyze any anti tumor drug like XXXXXXX guggulu type medication can help.
Also, send me the following details of her--
BMI
Diet pattern
Current medications
Kindly get back to me with these details
Regards
Dr.S.Senthilnathan
Need some details
Detailed Answer:
Hi XXXXXXX
I can understand your concern about your mom's status.
I have gone through the history in detail.
As meningioma treatment protocol in Ayurveda is not established as well scientifically but anti tumor drugs are available in Ayurveda. Depends on the nature and size of the tumor we can select the drug.
As the tumour is benign and still gets increasing in size, for this situation, regular anti seizures drugs in Ayurveda will not work for her.
If you please share the MRI report and in which the size and other details could be there so that depends on that we can analyze any anti tumor drug like XXXXXXX guggulu type medication can help.
Also, send me the following details of her--
BMI
Diet pattern
Current medications
Kindly get back to me with these details
Regards
Dr.S.Senthilnathan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Arnab Banerjee
Thanks for responding back doctor.
Please find the required details and also am attaching all the followup checkup's and recent MRI scan report.
BMI : 25
Diet Pattern : Regular diet, not anything specific just avoiding root substances.
Medications: Anti-Seizure medicines
Levipil 1g, Lacoset 100mg, Gardinal 60mg, Petril .5mg, Dexorange tonic
Kindly let me know if any other details are required.
Regards,
XXXX
Please find the required details and also am attaching all the followup checkup's and recent MRI scan report.
BMI : 25
Diet Pattern : Regular diet, not anything specific just avoiding root substances.
Medications: Anti-Seizure medicines
Levipil 1g, Lacoset 100mg, Gardinal 60mg, Petril .5mg, Dexorange tonic
Kindly let me know if any other details are required.
Regards,
XXXX
Brief Answer:
Will guide you
Detailed Answer:
Hi XXXXXXX
I gone through the report.
Since there is new benign growth in recent scan report.
I suggest you to take your mother to the following below mentioned centre.
you can take the ayurvedic treatment along with the current medication.
She needs inpatient care and proper assessment by the Ayurveda doctor.
Some good anti tumor drugs like aswaganda,guggulu,some locally prepared herbal medication may be effective against this tumor.
Kindly contact the below address as well as mail them regarding your visit .
THE XXXXXXX VAIDYA CHIKITSALAYAM AND
RESEARCH INSTITUTE [Division of the The XXXXXXX Vaidya Pharmacy(CBE)Ltd.]
(ISO 9001 : 2000 Certified Hospital)
P.B.No:7102,Trichy Road,Ramanathapuram, XXXXXXX - 641 045
Tamil Nadu
Ph.No:0422 - 0000
Fax : 0422 - 0000
E-mail : YYYY@YYYY
Regards
Dr.S.Senthilnathan.
Will guide you
Detailed Answer:
Hi XXXXXXX
I gone through the report.
Since there is new benign growth in recent scan report.
I suggest you to take your mother to the following below mentioned centre.
you can take the ayurvedic treatment along with the current medication.
She needs inpatient care and proper assessment by the Ayurveda doctor.
Some good anti tumor drugs like aswaganda,guggulu,some locally prepared herbal medication may be effective against this tumor.
Kindly contact the below address as well as mail them regarding your visit .
THE XXXXXXX VAIDYA CHIKITSALAYAM AND
RESEARCH INSTITUTE [Division of the The XXXXXXX Vaidya Pharmacy(CBE)Ltd.]
(ISO 9001 : 2000 Certified Hospital)
P.B.No:7102,Trichy Road,Ramanathapuram, XXXXXXX - 641 045
Tamil Nadu
Ph.No:0422 - 0000
Fax : 0422 - 0000
E-mail : YYYY@YYYY
Regards
Dr.S.Senthilnathan.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by :
Dr. Vaishalee Punj
Thanks for responding back dr.
I have the following queries.
1. Having gone through the report, how effective this treatment would be based on your experience.
2. Will it be permanently cured?
3. Approx how much time would it take to get the things cleared completely?
4. Whats the alternative apart from In-Patient admission, if patient cannot travel so long?
5. How much would the entire treatment cost?
Please reply inline.
I have the following queries.
1. Having gone through the report, how effective this treatment would be based on your experience.
2. Will it be permanently cured?
3. Approx how much time would it take to get the things cleared completely?
4. Whats the alternative apart from In-Patient admission, if patient cannot travel so long?
5. How much would the entire treatment cost?
Please reply inline.
Brief Answer:
Let me clarify your doubt
Detailed Answer:
Hai XXXXXXX
Having gone through the report, how effective this treatment would be based on your experience.
As I didn’t treated personally meningioma cases. Mostly cases will be under the treatment of modern medicine. Patient will approach us in the terminal stage. I observed cases in other centers like I mentioned in earlier conversation AVP XXXXXXX They will approach the case in traditional ayurvedic aspect. At least for 1 week to 10 days they should be under in patient observation. As your mother get frequent seizures that should be monitored and properly addressed with Ayurveda medication. If the patient is responding well in 10 days then they will prescribe medication for 6 months with only follow up as outpatient every month. Then we need to go for a CT scan about whether size of the tumor is reduced or not. During the course of treatment they will provide fresh kashayam prepared at the center and certain panchakarma procedure especially in Inpatient care.
2. Will it be permanently cured?
We don’t have any data or study to tell whether it is cured permanently.
3. Approx how much time would it take to get the things cleared completely?
Approximately 18 months.. After initiation of the treatment if your mother is symptom less and leads a healthy life then the treatment period may reduce.
4. Whats the alternative apart from In-Patient admission, if patient cannot travel so long?
You need to search for an Ayurveda hospital near by your location. Wherever it is inpatient treatment observation is must for at least one week.
5. How much would the entire treatment cost?
Depends on the hospital and physician you approach. In patient treatment will be around Rs 40,000 to 50000 for 10 days .
you can contact the centre and enquire about it in detail.
Thanks and regards
Dr.S.Senthilnathan
Let me clarify your doubt
Detailed Answer:
Hai XXXXXXX
Having gone through the report, how effective this treatment would be based on your experience.
As I didn’t treated personally meningioma cases. Mostly cases will be under the treatment of modern medicine. Patient will approach us in the terminal stage. I observed cases in other centers like I mentioned in earlier conversation AVP XXXXXXX They will approach the case in traditional ayurvedic aspect. At least for 1 week to 10 days they should be under in patient observation. As your mother get frequent seizures that should be monitored and properly addressed with Ayurveda medication. If the patient is responding well in 10 days then they will prescribe medication for 6 months with only follow up as outpatient every month. Then we need to go for a CT scan about whether size of the tumor is reduced or not. During the course of treatment they will provide fresh kashayam prepared at the center and certain panchakarma procedure especially in Inpatient care.
2. Will it be permanently cured?
We don’t have any data or study to tell whether it is cured permanently.
3. Approx how much time would it take to get the things cleared completely?
Approximately 18 months.. After initiation of the treatment if your mother is symptom less and leads a healthy life then the treatment period may reduce.
4. Whats the alternative apart from In-Patient admission, if patient cannot travel so long?
You need to search for an Ayurveda hospital near by your location. Wherever it is inpatient treatment observation is must for at least one week.
5. How much would the entire treatment cost?
Depends on the hospital and physician you approach. In patient treatment will be around Rs 40,000 to 50000 for 10 days .
you can contact the centre and enquire about it in detail.
Thanks and regards
Dr.S.Senthilnathan
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Dr. Kampana
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