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Suggest Treatment For Flank Pain And Low Grade Fever

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Posted on Wed, 3 Aug 2016
Question: I have had back pain for over a week. Left side only, low grade fever 99.5. Pain feels like a kidney stone (history of stones) but no blood In urine. Help?
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Answered by Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (43 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Possible pyelonephritis (flank pain + fever)

Detailed Answer:
Hello and welcome,

The combination of pain in the kidney area plus a fever can mean a kidney infection. And kidney stones can increase the risk of infection, although it isn't necessary for there to be a stone to have a kidney infection.

I don't know if you had a fever when you went into the ER, but at this point, you may need an antibiotic. While uncomplicated bladder infections can be treated with increased water and cranberry juice, when there is also fever and flank pain, then it is time for an antibiotic.

Please go back to see a doctor (urgent care clinic would be fine) and give a urine specimen. This should be sent to a lab for both a culture and antibiotic sensitivity test. And an antibiotic should then be started.

If they haven't already taken an X-ray or other imaging studies to look for a stone, they should do this to.

Please let me know how you are doing after you are evaluated.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (1 hour later)
First day I went I had an infection. Pain got worse and went back 2 days later and no infection. No blood In urine either time and none today at family doc
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Answered by Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (7 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
How was the infection treated?

Detailed Answer:
Have you been on an antibiotic for the infection? Which antibiotic, and for how many days? And was the urine sent for a culture and sensitivity test?
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (26 minutes later)
Antibiotic went thru iv Tuesday and started oral antibiotics Wednesday and apparently it was gone by Friday. The antibiotic was ceftin 500 mg
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Answered by Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (17 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Thoughts about what might be going on:

Detailed Answer:
Without knowing all of the information your doctor had access to, some of my thoughts are:

The infecting bacteria may have only been partially sensitive to the Ceftin (meaning also partly resistant). When this happens, an infection can continue in a low grade way and not always show up on subsequent urinalyses (until it gets quite bad again). That's why I asked about a culture and sensitivity test. When we get a urine specimen that shows bacteria, and a person has symptoms of pyelonephritis, we don't wait for culture results - we start an antibiotic right away (as was appropriately done). But at the same time, we send the initial urine specimen (before treatment) for both a culture (to identify the bacteria) and sensitivity - where a list of antibiotics are tested against that grown bacteria to see if the bacteria is sensitive to each or not. Sometimes bacteria are only partially or incompletely sensitive, which means that the antibiotic might help but not enough.

I suggest going in or calling the place that the initial urinalysis was done and asking if a culture was done, and if so, for them to look at the sensitivity report.

Given that you have a fever, I think you need to be reevaluated, especially if you were without a fever after the antibiotic briefly.

And imaging studies would be appropriate if the pain has not changed. There might be a reason that either an infection has restarted or persisted - stones, cysts, etc. A renal ultrasound can help provide more information and is a wise idea at this point especially since you have a history of stones and your pain feels like when you've had stones in the past.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (22 minutes later)
I highly doubt the ER sent it out for a culture. I'm scheduled for that scan tomorrow, renal. Hopefully I have a better understanding of not I'm at square one again. Could it be muscular? No pain when u touch it or bang on my back. It's all internal pain.
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Answered by Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (17 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Doubt muscular.

Detailed Answer:
I doubt that it is muscular pain. Muscular pain would increase with use of the muscle. Given that you had a urinary tract infection, and have a fever, I think it is an internal problem.

Glad that you are having a scan tomorrow.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (2 days later)
Went to the ultra sound, results came back fine other then I had 400cc prior to peeing, 94cc left after I went to the bathroom. I went to the obgyn and it's not a girly problem. They did find blood in my urine now. Sending me back to family doc and also said I should have a cat scan bc if it's a small stone it wouldnt show in ultra sound?? No infection present in urine.. Girl parts look good. Help...
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Answered by Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (14 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Some thoughts on this.

Detailed Answer:
Are you still having fevers though?

It's possible for stones to show up on CT scans and not ultrasound.

Any "casts" seen in the urinalysis?

I imagine you know to drink copious amounts of water if there is suspicion of a stone.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (4 minutes later)
I see family doc on Monday.. Can't get in sooner. I will ask to have a scan and see a urologist at this point. I'm trying to flush my system with so much water. No relief doing so. You think it's possible for the stone to hold back releasing that urine? And what's the likely hood of it not coming up on a ultra sound? This all sounds so far fetched. She checked my muscles my having me push and pull and everything was good
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Answered by Dr. Bonnie Berger-Durnbaugh (9 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Time to talk with a urologist.

Detailed Answer:
To tell you the truth, I don't know at this point. But I can make 2 recommendations:

1. Call today to have referral to urologist rather than waiting to see your family doctor. It can take awhile to get in to see one so the sooner you or your doctor's office calls for an appointment the better. You can call your doctor's nurse and ask if she/he can make the appointment now.

2. With this new information (the urinary retention quantity, the recommendation for CT, the normal gynecological exam), post a new question on this site and write at the beginning of the first line: "FOR UROLOGIST ONLY".

A urologist will respond - most likely later today or tonight. Be very detailed in the history you provide and your question so he or she can be able to provide more information.
Note: For further queries, consult a joint and bone specialist, an Orthopaedic surgeon. Book a Call now.

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Suggest Treatment For Flank Pain And Low Grade Fever

Brief Answer: Possible pyelonephritis (flank pain + fever) Detailed Answer: Hello and welcome, The combination of pain in the kidney area plus a fever can mean a kidney infection. And kidney stones can increase the risk of infection, although it isn't necessary for there to be a stone to have a kidney infection. I don't know if you had a fever when you went into the ER, but at this point, you may need an antibiotic. While uncomplicated bladder infections can be treated with increased water and cranberry juice, when there is also fever and flank pain, then it is time for an antibiotic. Please go back to see a doctor (urgent care clinic would be fine) and give a urine specimen. This should be sent to a lab for both a culture and antibiotic sensitivity test. And an antibiotic should then be started. If they haven't already taken an X-ray or other imaging studies to look for a stone, they should do this to. Please let me know how you are doing after you are evaluated.