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Posted on Fri, 2 Jan 2015
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Hello,

I am writing to you regarding potential conditions which may explain symptoms that I have observed over these 2 years.

She is a 42 year old woman who was born in the Philippines. She moved to NYC in 2000. English is her second language but she has very strong vocabulary skills.

During the time that I have known her, I have considered the following potential conditions:

- PTSD
- Mild Cognitive Impairment
- Adult ADHD
- Low grade depression

The symptoms that I have observed are:

- Nearly no recollection of childhood memories
> When I ask her a question about her childhood, she says, "I have to ask my sister."

- Social Anxiety
> She did not start dating until she was 37 years out.
> I have taken her out to meet colleagues. Quite often, she did not say one word the whole night.
> She has become much more outgoing interacting with my family, though.

- Short Attention span. More comprehension.
> Not so much lately, but we used to watch movies together and during a scene in the middle of the movie, she would point to the main character and ask what part that person plays.
> Because we have a communication difficulties, I have started to ask her to rephrase what I've said to ensure the intended message was received correctly, for the most part.
> My anecdotal evidence seems to suggest that:
>> She remembers 35% of content delivered in a two minute time span.
>> Her comprehension of the content delivered is around 20%.

- Mildly inappropriate responses to situations.
> As an example, I might be speaking of something very stressful for to me. If I try to put on a "brave" face with a little smile, she will react as if I was delivering good news.

- Flat Effect
> She rarely demonstrates an emotional response to situations that normally elicits emotions.
> it seems like she has a complete of empathy for me. But if I say anything about how that affects me, she is easily brought to tears. Not for me but because it affects her low self-esteem.

She has seen a Psychiatrist and a Neurologist:

Psychiatrist:
- The Psychiatrist diagnosed her as having some form of Depression and some form of AHD, without the hyperactivity.
> The Psychiatrist prescribed Prozac and Adderall for her. (She's been on this combination of medication.)
> I thought the choice of Prozac was a little odd. I think that SNRIs alleviate symptoms of Depression than SSRIs do.
> After she started taking the Adderall, I noticed an improvement in her focus. But by 8:00 PM, her focus became poor again.
>> That's when I found out that the doctor prescribed Adderall Quick Release, instead of Adderall Extended Release.
>> I asked her to ask her doctor to switch the Quick Release to Extended Release. However, my girlfriend only started taking the Extended Release yesterday.

Neurologist:
- The Neurologist thinks she has some type of Cognitive Impairment but he doesn't think it's degenerative. He said that it was most likely "chemical".
- She did not ask him what he meant by "chemical" so I contacted him to ask if he was speaking about neurotransmitters, specifically Norepinephrine. It's the only one that I know that could be associated with some of these types of symptoms.
- The Neurologist indicated he was speaking about Norepinephrine AND Serotonin.
- I know that SSRIs have a secondary affect of the levels of Norepinephrine but, to me, it was an additional indication that switching to an SNRI was warranted. However, the Psychiatrist wants to stick to the current "cocktail".

I am starting to find it more and more difficult to believe that she has been diagnosed as having three different disorders, instead of one disorder which could explain all of her observable symptoms.

For full disclosure, over ten years ago I was diagnosed has having Bipolar Type 1 Disorder. I am still in the recovery phase from a Panic Disorder episode that started in March of this year.

I am very concerned that when I asked her how she thinks she has been doing the last two months, she said she felt she was doing much better. However, I feel as if things have gotten far, far worse.

I don't think she is receive the proper diagnosis or treatment plans but I am not a doctor and I do not know where to turn next.

She asked me to call my Father's Neurologist at XXXXXXX Universities Neurological Institute for Aging, Memory and Behavioral Disorders.

The stress that I've been experiencing trying to live together has been creating a lot of mood lability for me, which I have not been able to manage effectively these last three months. But, today, instead of feeling stressed, angry and frustrated, I just became completely anxious that she might have a significant degenerative disorder.

Any feedback you could provide would be truly appreciated.

Sincerely,

XXXX

PS. I've try to describe things to which I am best abled. So please forgive some outright misstatements I may have made in this note.
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Answered by Dr. Dr. Ashok Kumar Choudhary (18 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
The cognitive part can be explained on basis of ADHD and depression

Detailed Answer:
Hello,
Thanks for using healthcaremagic.

I read your query and understand your concerns. I was really impressed with your narration of her problems and likely treatment.

I agree with your neurologist that things are chemical as there is ample evidence to suggest that both serotonin and norepinephrine along with dopamine are involved in cognition.
I can argue with the point as she is responding well to current treatment which is unlikely to be effective in degenerative disorder. Other than that most of mild cognitive impairment is not due to degenerative disorders.
It is common observation that lack of attention is feature of both depression and ADHD. Many of the patients with these two conditions report to medical help because they are not able to pay required attention.

I am not convinced with difference in SNRI and SSRI as ultimately all receptors are inter related. With improvement of serotonin by SSRI, noradrenaline is also affected. The fact is evident from variety of studies which do not show any difference in efficacy for depression between SSRI and SNRI.

So to conclude you can continue with your psychiatrist as this is effective medication. Her improvement with current medication is real indicator that she is receiving right medication.

Hope I am able to answer your concerns.
If you have any further query, I would be glad to help you.
If not, you may close the discussion and if possible you may rate the answer for me, so that I get a good feedback.
In future if you wish to contact me directly, you can use the below mentioned link:
http://doctor.healthcaremagic.com/doctors/dr-ashok-kumar/67386
Thanks and regards
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Suggest Treatment For ADHD, Depression And PTSD

Brief Answer: The cognitive part can be explained on basis of ADHD and depression Detailed Answer: Hello, Thanks for using healthcaremagic. I read your query and understand your concerns. I was really impressed with your narration of her problems and likely treatment. I agree with your neurologist that things are chemical as there is ample evidence to suggest that both serotonin and norepinephrine along with dopamine are involved in cognition. I can argue with the point as she is responding well to current treatment which is unlikely to be effective in degenerative disorder. Other than that most of mild cognitive impairment is not due to degenerative disorders. It is common observation that lack of attention is feature of both depression and ADHD. Many of the patients with these two conditions report to medical help because they are not able to pay required attention. I am not convinced with difference in SNRI and SSRI as ultimately all receptors are inter related. With improvement of serotonin by SSRI, noradrenaline is also affected. The fact is evident from variety of studies which do not show any difference in efficacy for depression between SSRI and SNRI. So to conclude you can continue with your psychiatrist as this is effective medication. Her improvement with current medication is real indicator that she is receiving right medication. Hope I am able to answer your concerns. If you have any further query, I would be glad to help you. If not, you may close the discussion and if possible you may rate the answer for me, so that I get a good feedback. In future if you wish to contact me directly, you can use the below mentioned link: http://doctor.healthcaremagic.com/doctors/dr-ashok-kumar/67386 Thanks and regards