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Is MRSA Infection A Risk Factor In A Patient Suffering From Influenza?

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Posted on Thu, 14 Apr 2016
Question: Thank you for your great answers

I was reading and putting things together that real numbers in CDC statistic is count together influenza and pneumonia, but most case there is death is from pneumonia so influenza – so it is logic that MRSA carriers are at rather small risk of influenza flowed be pneumonia.




I hope you cold give me small comment – as I was reading materials and discovering very important things



As I have discovered some materials where influenza and pneumonia deaths are count together !!


And there real number counting numbers of death is more pneumonia without influenza. ( "influenza and pneumonia" took 62 034 lives in 2001—61 777 of which were attributed to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was flu virus positively identified)

So it makes sense as risk for MRSA colonized develop pneumonia influenza season is rather low – of course to estimate real risk number is rather hard


As it also was said in CDC page

http://www.XXXX.gov/flu/about/qa/XXXX.htm

The overall risk of developing an MRSA infection after influenza appears to be very low. However, CDC continues to work with state and local public health authorities to better understand this association.






And there is experts who gives comment about statistic

US data on influenza deaths are a mess. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges a difference between flu death and flu associated death yet uses the terms interchangeably. Additionally, there are significant statistical incompatibilities between official estimates and national vital statistics data. Compounding these problems is a marketing of fear—a CDC communications strategy in which medical experts “predict dire outcomes” during flu seasons.


https://aspe.XXXX.gov/cdc-%E2%80%94-XXXXX-deaths-XXXX-correction-rfc


http://www.XXXX.XXX.XXX.gov/pmc/articles/PMC0000/




Meanwhile, according to the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), "influenza and pneumonia" took 62 034 lives in 2001—61 777 of which were attributed to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was flu virus positively identified



https://aspe.XXX.gov/cdc-%E2%80%94-XXXX-deaths-request-correction-rfc




In conclusion there is more some other risks form pneumonia.


Thank you for your help
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Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
I have 1 question from the first paragraph

Detailed Answer:
Hi sir.

Yes, that should be the case.

But I would also like to clarify, these number of deaths mentioned were purely from pneumonia (as a single condition, or as a complication to another condition)?, or purely from influenza (as an individual condition, or as a complication to another condition or in association with another condition)?

Yes of course, outcomes and consequences of flu season are usually more grave than the usual environment, this is purely because flu season occurs when environmental conditions are not favourable enough to support perfect health in the human race. These conditions cause an aggravation of various pre-existing conditions, and coupled with the flu being introduced in those vulnerable individuals, fatalities can occur.

Pneumonia lowers the immunity, and in many individuals lasts almost life long. Like in 2009 my grandmother along with other family members went for the holy pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, part of which entails sleeping in a tent under the open sky. This resulted in her contracting pneumonia, after which she lost weight a because half her size. Till date she is being treated for it, and it hasn't completely been treated. This was just so you can understand how pneumonia can really be serious at times.

Best wishes.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (6 hours later)
Thank you !!

1. As firs answer to your question about data

As in text it is said that from 62 023 death that count together in year 2001

67 777 where prom pneumonia without influenza ( of course some low immunity condition)

Meanwhile, according to the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), "influenza and pneumonia" took 62 034 lives in 2001—61 777 of which were attributed to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was flu virus positively identified

https://aspe.XXXX.gov/cdc-0000-influenza-deaths-request-correction-rfc

2. So this fact and previous discussion we can conclude that single MRSA colonization and influenza is lot a big risk factor for MRSA pneumonia. There are other factors like low immunity !

Is it so ??



3. My wife also had pneumonia, but know she is ok - with no XXXXXXX problems.

So pneumonia could have bad consequence for people with weaker immunity ?

Thank you !!
doctor
Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (15 hours later)
Brief Answer:
1. So no MRSA in those patients?;2. Yes. 3. Yes, many factors involved

Detailed Answer:
Hi sir.

1. So these cases are just of pneumonia and flu, and not individuals who had MRSA and then got pneumonia or the flu?

2. Yes

3. So there are many factors that are into play here also, your wife must be much younger than my grandmother was (is), so her immunity must be generally much better than my grandmothers.

Yes.

Best wishes.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (35 minutes later)
Thank you !!

1. The most case are pneumonia but not only MRSA - other pneumonia and most of them is without influenza !!

2. As i understated healthy people can get influenza and cure it by them self without knowing it, so it means in a past i could get influenza and cured it without knowing it. Is it so ??

3. In my last letter there second question was mistake not word lot - but not !!
So once more question is !

So this fact and previous discussion we can conclude that single MRSA colonization and influenza is not a big risk factor for MRSA pneumonia. There are other factors like low immunity !

Thank you for your help !!!
doctor
Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Yes; Yes; Yes sir, I knew that was a typing error, answered accordingly

Detailed Answer:
Hi sir.

1. Yes, then that makes more sense. Of course, pneumonia is much more serious than influenza. And we should also consider the fact that the census speaks on influenza as a whole, and not any specific types of influenza. Most of the types of influenza are not serious, only a few can cause serious outcomes.

2. Yes of course, the simple types of influenza do not even require treatment, and the body's self defence (immunity) can fight a simple infection by itself.

3. I understood that sir :)

Best wishes.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (2 days later)
Thank you for your help and advises

1.     About your answer - Most of the types of influenza are not serious, only a few can cause serious outcomes.

As serious influenza you mean – swine influenza or other A group influenza …
But they are not serious for everyone only in weak persons can become outcome as complications?

2.     So in conclusion even for example I carry MRSA and I get influenza and I m healthy I wont develop MRSA pneumonia. Is it so ??

Thank you!!
doctor
Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (15 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Yes; and yes sir :)

Detailed Answer:
Hello once again sir.

1. Yes. But still, it can be fatal in some, which is why I categorise them as serious.

2. Yes sir.

Best wishes.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (12 hours later)
Thank you

So it is fatal for them with weak immune those who get type of influenza that can deadly for them - but strong people will avoid problems, and also healthy MRSA carriers.

Is it so ??
doctor
Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (29 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Yes sir

Detailed Answer:
Hi sir.

Yes, in many cases it does result in fatalities. And individuals with better immunities will survive and avoid all serious problems.

Best wishes.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shoaib Khan (30 hours later)
Thank you doctor !!

but as we discused in previos letters the influenza death reate is overestimated !!

The more death is from pneimonia - in conlusion

for heaty people influnza is not so serios ??

is it so ??
doctor
Answered by Dr. Shoaib Khan (2 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Yes, that is correct sir

Detailed Answer:
Hi sir.

Yes sir, that is true. Influenza is in general/overall not considered a life threatening condition for healthy individuals.

Best wishes.
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Is MRSA Infection A Risk Factor In A Patient Suffering From Influenza?

Brief Answer: I have 1 question from the first paragraph Detailed Answer: Hi sir. Yes, that should be the case. But I would also like to clarify, these number of deaths mentioned were purely from pneumonia (as a single condition, or as a complication to another condition)?, or purely from influenza (as an individual condition, or as a complication to another condition or in association with another condition)? Yes of course, outcomes and consequences of flu season are usually more grave than the usual environment, this is purely because flu season occurs when environmental conditions are not favourable enough to support perfect health in the human race. These conditions cause an aggravation of various pre-existing conditions, and coupled with the flu being introduced in those vulnerable individuals, fatalities can occur. Pneumonia lowers the immunity, and in many individuals lasts almost life long. Like in 2009 my grandmother along with other family members went for the holy pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia, part of which entails sleeping in a tent under the open sky. This resulted in her contracting pneumonia, after which she lost weight a because half her size. Till date she is being treated for it, and it hasn't completely been treated. This was just so you can understand how pneumonia can really be serious at times. Best wishes.