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What Causes Continuous Negative Thoughts In A 6 Year Old Child?

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Posted on Tue, 29 Mar 2016
Question: Hello doctor,

My daughter XXXXXXX (turned 6 in Jan) has recently (from almost a month) started saying she is getting bad thoughts continously. On reassuring her, and repeated questioning she said that her bad thoughts involve:
1. Pregnancy - she thinks there is a baby in her stomach sometimes, or some random person on the street.
2. thoughts of marriage - imagining her to be bride or looking at our (me and my husband) wedding photos/videos or seeing anything related to marriage on tv etc.
3. killing a person
4. she tells she thinks her grandmother, grandfather and one of her cousins (my inlaws live with us and this cousin recently got a job in blore. So, she is also living with us right now) are mad and doesnt like them.

I've talked to her at length that she is a very nice girl and she will not be able to kill a person even if she wanted to and not to worry about killing and such. It looks like thought of death and killing seem to be in control/subsided. But, the other factors keep disturbing her always.

Regarding marriage, I try to tell her to not to view marriage as a bad thing. It is like any other function/party that we attend. A chance to dress up and such. But, it still persists.

Similarly, I tell her not to have bad thoughts about granny because she takes care of her and gives her food when she is back from school etc.

I keep telling her the samething, everytime she comes to me telling she got a bad thought.

But, still the problem persists. I would like to know what you think about this as a child psychiatrist? Does she need any counselling to get over this? What I need to do handle her problems correctly? In my view, she is not thinking about these intentionally. She is getting thoughts into her head which she considers as wrong/bad and doesnt know how to handle it or control it.

Otherwise, she is a very active and smart kid. Studies and plays well.

Please help me to help my child.

I know this getting very long but please bear with me.
To give you a little background about the family, after I got married, me and my husband stayed in my parents house itself as both of us had jobs in blore itself and my first daughter was born while we were still with my parents. I had recently changed job so didnt get more than 3 months leave. So, my mom took care of my daughter during the day from the time she was 3 months old until she was 4.5 years. While she was 4 years, my second daughter was born and then we got our inlaws to shift to blore and we moved out of my parents' house. My first daughter is very much attached to my mom more than anyone else and somehow, I feel that moving to new home and not being able to be with my mom is depressing her to some extent.

Thanks
XXXX
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Answered by Dr. Shubham Mehta (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Monitoring of symptoms, regular follow up with doctor.

Detailed Answer:
Hello Madam,
Welcome to HCM.
I have gone through the details very thoroughly and understand your concerns for your daughter.

As far as diagnosis is concerned, it is very difficult to reach to a one right now.

The probable reasons/differential diagnosis for her would be:
1. Obsessive thoughts (Childhood onset OCD). Do you notice her doing any rituals or repetitive behaviors to neutralize her bad thoughts?

2. Understandably, her separation from maternal grandparents could be reason why she is perceiving her paternal grandparents to be bad. This is common in children. They find it difficult to attach to new people sometime.

3. Considering the bizzarenes of her thoughts as per her age (pregnancy thought at age if 6), a thought disorder including psychosis should be kept in mind. But the likelihood of this is less as her behavior is normal otherwise.

The important thing would be to monitor her symptoms. But do not be over cautious.
Do not try to contradict her thoughts just because you think they are irrational. They have meaning for the child. Give her explanation about their falsehood. Do not talk about these issues repeatedly as the child might get irritated.

The diagnosis is better made with help of projective tests done on one to one interview with child.
I would suggest you to consult a child psychiatrist at NIMHANS XXXXXXX

Hope this helps.
Feel free to ask further.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Shubham Mehta (36 minutes later)
Hello sir,

Thanks for your reply. I do not observe any repetitive behaviour to neutralise bad thoughts. Whenever a bad thought comes to her mind, she just comes and tells me. Infact, she waits for me to come back from office in the evening and tells me the bad thoughts she had during the day.

I have been reassuring her that all her thoughts are silly and not to worry about it. But, when would this stop? How will she learn to control/handle her thoughts?

If it is OCD, any medication/counseling is required?

Thanks
XXXX
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Answered by Dr. Shubham Mehta (4 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Address her thoughts with explanations.

Detailed Answer:
Dear XXXXXXX you are most welcome.

Children seek for explanation for query they have in their mind. As I mentioned earlier, it might just not be enough to dismiss her thought by saying its silly.
You can try to convince her about falsehood of the thoughts by giving reasons according to her age.

Say for pregnancy and marriage, she can be told that only big girls can become pregnant or get married. Just and example.

There is no limit or end to these thoughts. But yes, a detailed evaluation is must to determine the cause or psychopathology behind such thoughts.

If OCD is confirmed, both drugs and counseling can be done.

I would strongly recommend you to meet Dr. XXXXXXX at NIMHANS. She is the XXXXXXX child psychiatrist there and the best person to consult.

I wish for speedy recovery of little XXXXXXX
If you have more queries, you can ask further.
Kindly close the discussion if your concerns are satisfactorily addressed and give your feedback.

Regards.
Dr. Shubham Mehta.
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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What Causes Continuous Negative Thoughts In A 6 Year Old Child?

Brief Answer: Monitoring of symptoms, regular follow up with doctor. Detailed Answer: Hello Madam, Welcome to HCM. I have gone through the details very thoroughly and understand your concerns for your daughter. As far as diagnosis is concerned, it is very difficult to reach to a one right now. The probable reasons/differential diagnosis for her would be: 1. Obsessive thoughts (Childhood onset OCD). Do you notice her doing any rituals or repetitive behaviors to neutralize her bad thoughts? 2. Understandably, her separation from maternal grandparents could be reason why she is perceiving her paternal grandparents to be bad. This is common in children. They find it difficult to attach to new people sometime. 3. Considering the bizzarenes of her thoughts as per her age (pregnancy thought at age if 6), a thought disorder including psychosis should be kept in mind. But the likelihood of this is less as her behavior is normal otherwise. The important thing would be to monitor her symptoms. But do not be over cautious. Do not try to contradict her thoughts just because you think they are irrational. They have meaning for the child. Give her explanation about their falsehood. Do not talk about these issues repeatedly as the child might get irritated. The diagnosis is better made with help of projective tests done on one to one interview with child. I would suggest you to consult a child psychiatrist at NIMHANS XXXXXXX Hope this helps. Feel free to ask further.