Question: hi, My name is XXXX and i am after a medical opinion on a topic regarding OI type 1 and/or TBBD.

my question is when a rib is fracture is there symptoms, if multiple ribs are fractures is there pain, if their is multiple rib fractures at different stages say two weeks from each break is it painful?

what forces would cause multiple ribs to break? will there be any physical signs at one point if multiple ribs are being broken and its occurring with a fortnightly appearance.

Now if i was to tell you of a patient who has suffered from multiple rib fractures at different times (different stages of healing, 2weeks or so apart) with no pain what so ever, no swelling nothing. It has gone unnoticed by 3 medical professionals and was only picked up with a xray done for another reason what would be your first thoughts, consider this person to also have excessive sweating and a very hot body (rashes quite easily, cant regulate his or hers temperature) and bruises easily however no bruises on the fractured sites at any occurrence. My first thought was OI-Osteogenesis imperfecta type 1 (mild)
http://www.oif.org/site/DocServer/_Child_Abuse__Child_Abuse_or_Ostegenesis_Imperfecta.pdf?docID=7189
http://www.oif.org/site/PageServer?pagename=TypeI

my second thought would be
temporary brittle bone disease
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/0000.

now you might be wondering why i am asking these questions and with an idea of what it might be, the reason for this is i am a young Mother to a 3month old baby, i had gone to the doctor with my concerns of bruising that would just appear from routine things like a hip check or when the doctor had checked to see if the baby had thrush. i had also notice he would always sweat even in the cold months and would rash up so easily (you wouldnt know what to dress him in most days). well that resulted in my Husband and i being accused of child abuse and my son taken away. Following that they did all the test they normally do at CPS and found out he had multiple rib fractures (posterior) at different stages of healing, now i know none of us nor his grandparents have harmed him, what i cannot believe is how 3 medical professionals have messed something so serious. I have done many hours of research and spoken to 3 GPs and a nurse all have which thought the same thing, something needs to be medical wrong for a 2month old at the time not to feel serveral bones break. No fever no tenderness no swelling nothing, i have also done a lot of research and for his bones to break the way they are saying it was done he would of had to at one point have external and internal injuries. i also know the test they are doing doesnt pick up OI type 1 or TBBD and i know they will not do any further scans or testing to rule it out, they simply want someone to say they have hurt him which isnt the case, i had known from the start something was odd with my son with his sweating/heat and as soon as i saw he was bruising easily i got help to just be accused of such a horrific crime, please can you give me medical advice and opinion or know another doctor who can that i can email?

its just so hard to even live without my son when i know i have not done anything nor my husband, i have given them numerous research papers and spoken to numerous people to make sure the information i am giving is correct. I simple cannot believe this is happening to be honest, XXXXXXX is such a happy healthy baby, the pediatrician who made the report himself said "we will do monthly visit to keep them happy" "nothing will come from this report i am just doing it for i have to" himself didnt even think our son was abuse, the midwife who i told about the first bruising i saw didnt, the GP who we took XXXXXXX to numerous times didnt. I have done numerous research and i know babies who are abuse like this lack in colour, weight and milestones for to drink much is painful, breathing is painful, when trauma happens to the chest not only are the bones affected but the muscle and skin tissue, the midwife and GP and pediatrician had seen XXXXXXX without clothes, felt him all over, listen to his chest and all, he has never made it clear at all that it was sore, no swelling, no redness, no bruising and he was breathing normally. I have also done numerous statistical research and to do those injuries via trauma that many times would cause such things as bruising and internal injuries to the organs protected by the ribs. My son now has gotten a UTI and high PH level (7) in care and trust me when i say this but when peeing or out of the blue he has shown his pain and that is from a UTI, that is how i know he can show pain, he also has shown pain when getting his needles, there is no doubt if he is in pain he doesnt like people know. However when he was home he would only cry when he was hungry or wanted me, as soon as you gave his bottle he would stop or as soon as he saw me reaching for him he would stop. there are numerous papers on the internet in medical vlogs that yes child abuse is a terrible thing but so is over diagnosing children with child abuse when in fact its TBBD or Mild OI type 1

i wish the doctors at CPS werent so bias and actually use their brains, if a mother can do the research and no what they are saying is impossible then surely they wont go out of their ways to ruin a family. Everyone is behind us, local GPs, midwife, parents(both sides) aunts, uncles everyone, everyone knows how much dessy is to us and its just so frustrating how they can say something like this yet nothing makes sense, since we know he bruises thats why i got him check out so not to bruise from such a horrific trauma like they are saying does not make sense! and for no internal injuries seriously! once this is all over i am going to make sure no other family goes through this when it is not needed, they need to not always assume but help families who sort help and knew something wasnt right, however they just put the blame back on them.


Also Dessy is 3months old has a UTI and a high PH level of 7, they are trying to say we cause it and hes had it before care (5weeks ago) now we are parents who record everything so we know for a fact his wees were good and good amounts and i know from experience that a UTI doesnt last that long if you are drinking so much, they are trying to blame us for everything when they should be helping my baby something isnt right? he has these fractures without trauma and pain, now he has a UTI like help my baby dont try to blame innocent parents

all i know is he had traces of blood in his urine, hes in pain, hes slightly feverish, his PH levels were 7. They are doing an ultra sound after a 7 day course of antibiotics.