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Suggest Treatment For Reccuring Pneumonia

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Posted on Tue, 22 Apr 2014
Question: Please consider this to be a hypothetical scenario. Suppose an elderly pt is admitted to hospital with a minor fracture that makes it too painful to walk. The pt recently suffered pneumonia and is discovered on admission to have a high white cell count and a high C reactive protein count. Initial CRP readings are 34.8, 71.3 146.7 & 279.1; while initial WCC readings are 14.4, 17.3, 16.1 & 26.0. There is a suspicion of a recurrence of pneumonia (although 2 blood cultures are negative and there is no urine analysis). The pt is administered IV ceftriaxone for 10 days and, when that is ceased, administered ciprofloxacin and metronidazole. There is evidence that the pneumonia has cleared or is clearing (although there is an on-going problem with pleural effusion). The administration of all antibiotics is then ceased, even though the CRP and WCC are still high. The recent CRP readings are 33.2, 26.3, 23.9 & 23.6; and the WCC readings are 19.5, 14.3, 15.9 & 13.7. After the cessation of antibiotics the CRP readings continue to be high at 30.5, 37.8, 54.3, 66, 110 & 126.9; while the WCC readings are now 15.6, 14.4, 13.5, 12.7 and 16.7. The antibiotics seem to have helped with the pneumonia but considering that the CRP and WCC were high at the time that the administration of antibiotics ceased and continued to be high, would it be best to have kept the pt on antibiotics (whether the same or different ones) or would it appear to be pointless considering their lack of success in resolving the high CRP and high WCC? What would you do in these circumstances?
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Answered by Dr. Robert Galamaga (20 hours later)
Brief Answer: Considerations. Detailed Answer: thabks for the query, this is an interesting and challenging scenario. first of all, CRP is somewhat non specific. it is elevated in multiple clinical scenarios including infection and inflammation among others. the white blood cell count is helpful but. it a perfect test. Treatment of an infection such as pneumonia should not be based on white count alone. generally we use anywhere from 7 to 14 days of treatment. a followup X-ray should be done in 4 weeks to document resolution of the pneumonia as well. what is most important is to look at the patient, listen, examine and correlate this with imaging and lab studies. sometimes CRP and white count can remain elevated after an infection has cleared. it sounds as if in this situation good standard of care was utilized. thanks again for the query and please let me know if you have any additional concerns. dr G
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Suggest Treatment For Reccuring Pneumonia

Brief Answer: Considerations. Detailed Answer: thabks for the query, this is an interesting and challenging scenario. first of all, CRP is somewhat non specific. it is elevated in multiple clinical scenarios including infection and inflammation among others. the white blood cell count is helpful but. it a perfect test. Treatment of an infection such as pneumonia should not be based on white count alone. generally we use anywhere from 7 to 14 days of treatment. a followup X-ray should be done in 4 weeks to document resolution of the pneumonia as well. what is most important is to look at the patient, listen, examine and correlate this with imaging and lab studies. sometimes CRP and white count can remain elevated after an infection has cleared. it sounds as if in this situation good standard of care was utilized. thanks again for the query and please let me know if you have any additional concerns. dr G