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Can HIV Be Contracted To Consumption Of Breast Secretion?

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Posted on Sat, 11 Apr 2015
Question: HI , 08/03/2015 i went to a massage parlour and sucked a breast about 10 mins , she is CSW and she has Kid (1 yr old baby) , hope she stopped breast feeding like 2 months before( she told). When i sucked i remember i swallowed something ( Not felt any sweet taste in my mouth) , might be i drunk fully . i have sore on my lips for long time (No pain , No blood) other than that i don't have any wound in mouth. now i am strated getting all the symptoms.( Skin rash (Not red bumps burning type rash) , cough , yellow tongue , dry mouth (i smoke a lot) , neck pain , mild hot in my body (like feverish) .Am i going to infected to HIV?
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Breast sucking has negligible HIV risk.Symptoms unlikely to be due to HIV

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome to HCM.

HIV concentration in Breast secretions are very much less when compared to blood or semen or vaginal fluid. Even with regular feeding for more than six months by an infected mother, only 25-30% of the babies got infection through breast milk. So sucking the breast has a negligible risk for HIV. Then there is a possibility for her being uninfected with HIV so far.

Moreover it is just 11 days past your encounter with that girl. Earliest HIV manifestations will occur only after 3-4 weeks after the infection, that too, not with all who infected(around 70%). So the symptoms present with you within 10 days could unlikely be due to HIV. All your symptoms can occur to anybody without the presence of an HIV infection due to any sore throat of viral or bacterial origin.
So nothing to worry about HIV.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (48 minutes later)
Thanks doctor , i too hope she don't have HIV. but in worst case since she is working commercially.

1) I am getting some burning type of rashes, its burning like small wound (line type)
what will be the cause?
2) How about if person has low immune system already like easily get cold/fever/sore throat for them also it wil take 3 weeks minimum ? i recived the different response from another doctor he said it will take few days .
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (12 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Your chances for getting HIV is unlikely through breast sucking.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
All the commercial sex workers are not HIV positive. Only 30% are HIV positive.
1.Rashes might be due to either drug rash or due to an exantheme (associated with viral fever). Some other allergic rashes like food allergy, contact with some insects, plant allergen,dust or chemicals.
2. HIV enters into the body and the infection gets established only after 72 hours. Then only it starts multiplying and the symptoms start occurring after few weeks only.
Don't get confuse yourself. Your chances of getting HIV infection is very much unlikely through the above mentioned act.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (11 minutes later)
Thanks doctor. I got scared because of all symptoms matching with HIV. without condem she gave me a hand job. what will happen if she has cut in her hand or something. just for educating myself.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Hand job on unprotected penis is not a risk for HIV.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
Nothing will happen with a hand job without a condom protection even if she had cuts in her hand. Not to worry.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 hours later)
I am not able to agree doctor , still my mind thinking like i am going to affect with HIV because of below symptoms

1) Tiredness 2) Oral thrush 3) sore throat 4) Muscle pain (last 4 days)
5) Skin burning rash , 6) body chillness 7) headache back side 8) some time more hot.

Dont know , what i am going to do? might be i am going to infect it seems.

Scary a lot !!!!
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Symptoms are not specific to HIV. Test could be conclusive.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome once again.

Don't get panicky and get depressed.
Tiredness can occur even for a child. Sore throat is a very common illness for every one. You could mistook something else as oral thrush. Such symptoms can not occur in early HIV.
However much I would try to convince you, the only way to get rid of all your doubts is to get tested for HIV. Just wait for another 17 days to get a more conclusive result.
You will be happy to see a negative HIV result.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (36 minutes later)
Thanks Doc. I have already given HIV DNA PCR test will that be conclusive? i am worrying bcz i am getting some related problems , also something itching from morning in left lips corner. Just say , as per my exposure , i wont be at any risk right? if no, why i am getting these symptoms? i am getting some nail pinching type rash , like when you pinch some one , they will get some line with wound right? like that i am getting.when itching comes , i scratch , after that line comes. started burning. leg behind thigh is paining , couldn't able to stand but sometime i didn't feel the pain.
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (4 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Infection can occur through air born or due to skin contact during intimacy

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.

HIV DNA PCR can detect the presence of HIV infection as early as 1 week. But becomes more conclusive only after 4 weeks. It will rule out only HIV 1 infection (99% prevalence) but not the HIV 2. Both can be tested by antibody test which will be more conclusive by 12 weeks.

Your symptom can occur due to any air-born or skin to skin contact infection during intimacy during sex play (Hugging, kissing). Otherwise some allergic reactions could manifest like that. Only the examining doctor can arrive at the diagnosis.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
Thanks doctor, i checked with skin doctor even they dont know what is the exact cause for this.

As you are HIV specialist , just let me know , as per my exposure , whether i ll get infect with HIV/STD's or not? are these symptoms related to HIV or not?

Just please let me know , i am worrying much.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (6 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Your HIV risk is negligible.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome to HCM

I re-emphasize that the chances of getting HIV/STD through just sucking of someone's breast is a very remote possibility or negligible. The symptoms which you had,are in no way specific to HIV alone but can occur in many other common infections also. There is nothing to worry.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (13 minutes later)
Thanks again Doctor. So i no need to worry right? DO i need to take any test further? is this really required? My mind is keep on thinking this alone. I believe Rashes can be view able by naked eye. because mine is , when i shown to doc he couldnt able to see anything. Thanks again doctor.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (6 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Another HIV rapid or ELISA test after 12 weeks suggested.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome once again.

As you are not able to forget that incidence and as it is disturbing you mentally very much, any small thing in future (even a head ache) make you to relate the same to that incidence and you could think of the possibility of HIV once again, it is better to have another HIV antibody test after 12 weeks and have a negative test which can totally relieve you and you can forget this incident once far all.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (10 minutes later)
I agree with you. many of them suggested this has a no risk situation. I have started coming out from this. Test is required only for my peace of mind not for risk . am I right doctor? Thanks all your help.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (4 hours later)
Brief Answer:
test for HIV is to relieve your mental tension

Detailed Answer:
Hi
Welcome back
Yes, absolutely, you don't really need a test for HIV. I suggested the same only for the sake of your mental calmness.
Dr S Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (36 minutes later)
Thanks a lot doctor. One more thing i want to discuss , i have some round type painless ulcer (Not in Red) in my genital. Sometimes my genital is itching . its looks like white round color mark in the head. I am attaching the image marked place ,i have small white round color mark.
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
nothing serious. Consult your physician

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
The clarity of the picture is not very good. A close examination of the region is needed to make exact diagnosis. It wouldn't be anything serious. Consult your physician. You will be alright soon. Dr S Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
Sure Doctor, I checked with STD doctor yesterday , he said nothing , i am worrying because he didn't notice clearly. Could you please clarify my doubt , how exactly HIV rash looks and how that will start? As i checked in Google, they have mentioned its looks like Red bumps , will that red bumps comes single or multiple in the single place? also will that start without itching or after itching it will come?

I am getting some red spots in my body. Worrying much again :(
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (48 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
not an isolated lesion. Occur all over body simultaneously

Detailed Answer:
Hi
Welcome back

There is nothing like specific to HIV rashes. There are many skin conditions that can manifest with rashes including drug and insect bite allergy, seborrheic dermatitis, viral fevers etc. Those rashes may be exaggerated in HIV infection. But these are all not early HIV symptoms. Early manifestations can mimic the rashes of measles. Reddish uniform thin granules like lesions (not an isolated one) over most of the body.
Yours is not such a one.
Dr S Murugan

Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (12 minutes later)
Yes for me Red spots in countable places. Attached the image for your reference.

I think i am too much stressing my self . Doctor as per my exposure i wont get HIV/STD in my life right? i no need to care about anything and simply i can move on with my life right?

Suggest /Advice me please.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Rash in the picture is not related to HIV.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.

The rashes I mentioned would be described as morbiliform (like distribution over a marble stone) dense reddish granules like lesions in early HIV.
Unlike the rash in the picture sent by you. It might be due to some insect bite.
You need not worry any more about HIV and you can carry on your routine and have the HIV test after 12 weeks to overcome all your doubts.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (7 minutes later)
Believe me doctor. I am trying trying. but I am not able to came out of this. daily I am noticing something. today I am simply taking rest. but all of sudden muscle paining especially in arm below neck. sometime leg thigh. below knee something is pinching. sometimes shoulder. could you please give me your number. mine is 0000.

I forget to add one thing doctor. When i swallowed something from her breast , after that i took bath while coming back from parlour , i found something bulge under my Jaw, really big i hope that was swalloen glands , after that i had buttermilk + cigar then once i reached home i took Listerine.
What good be the cause of that? will that be HIV virus? everyone telling our saliva will kill virus , but before going there i smoked what will happen if i have dry mouth at the time. i am scary.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (6 hours later)
Brief Answer:
HIV transmission from breast secretion is unlikely.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
Concentration of virus in breast secretion of an infected woman is very very low. One encounter would not cause infection. Moreover as you said human saliva contains Lyzozyme which is inimical to the HIV virus. So HIV infection is unlikely. Why you don't want to believe that you are free from HIV?
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 minutes later)
Ok i agree with you doctor. Because of symptoms i am thinking badly .

Could you please tell me, the above encounter will cause any STD's?
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (16 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Quite unlikely.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Once again I welcome you.

STD through breast seeking is also not possible unless that girl had any obvious STD ulcer on her breast which you could be easily recognized. If there was an ulcer she would not have exhibited her breast and you wouldn't have a temptation to suck her breast. There is no microscopic STD ulcer. So there is no possibility.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (1 hour later)
i got some black layered on top my penis , i am worried much , am i going to affect with STD? morning i didnt notice that or i missed it . Dont know, as per your suggestion from breast sucking no HIV/STD will affect me right?

doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (6 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Color change over penis is not indicative of STD.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome once again.

Color changes over penis is quite common in all normal individuals without any reason. That does not indicate any STD. Moreover sucking the breast never cause any STD manifestations over penis. Allay all your fear against STD/HIV. You are safe.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (8 minutes later)
No doctor, i agree i have lot of fear. But seriously i have some black layer in the left top of my penis. Genital warts looks like that only right? Flat separated black layered. Could you please how the common genital warts looks like?
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (12 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
warts over penis are unlikely following breast sucking

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome.
Genital wart might look like pink or skin colored usually. Black thickening or growth like thing in warts is common in a long standing genital warts or manipulated with treatment modalities or a non STD common skin warts.
But all these are quite unlikely following a breast sucking incident.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (6 hours later)
Hi Doctor ,

I checked with Dermatologist , he said black mark because of i used soap to clean my genital. So i am ok with his solution.

After i came from hospital, seriously i didn't think anything about that incident.
but all of sudden i felt COLD inside , when i switched off the fan , its sweating lightly. I got Sore throat ( felt something struck on mouth) , i smoked a lot. nearly 20 cigarettes.(after i goggle with salt water its OK now) even if i do a small work like driving my car , my joints are started paining, unable to open my JAW too ,its stiffing. before urine starts its paining in the tip, left back of neck(near to ear) its paining. its too hot outside but i didn't feel hot its like cold.
why this is happening? because of my anxiety or HIV/STD symptoms?
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (3 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Symptoms might be due to fear of STD/HIV. Consult a psychiatrist

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome to HCM.

Smoking heavily can cause sore throat.
Drinking not less than 3 liters of water will relieve your pain during urination and feeling of cold.
They all might be due to you anxiety and fear of STD/HIV.
It is better to have a consultation with a psychiatrist.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (21 minutes later)
Thanks doctor. but pls understand I am not lying. I am feeling damn cold inside. suddenly I felt cold sir. if its anxiety it ll leave in sometimes rights? but its not going out. I am not feeling fear. pls understand. help me
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (6 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Only on examination and with investigations one can fix your problem.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome.

I never thought you are lying. I can understand your concern.
But it can not be helped through conversation on line. Consult your physician. He can help you for all your problems after thorough examination and appropriate investigations.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Raju A.T
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (7 hours later)
Thanks doctor. I checked with some doctors they said its not a way to transmit HIV. Even you said its not hiv or std. I agree. why I am feeling chill inside. will that be a anxiety? will anxiety creates chills? if yes why I am having all the day. what are all think I ll get from anxiety. Pls educate me.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (29 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
You need a thorough examination and relevant investigations

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome.
Whether the feeling of chillness is due to anxiety or not can be told only after a thorough examination and after relevant investigations. Investigations have to done after examination according to the needs. Only if everything is within normal limits one can think of anxiety. So try to meet a physician and tell all your problems. He/she will help you. Get well soon.
Dr S XXXXXXX
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Raju A.T
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (4 days later)
Hi Doctor ,

Hope you are doing well, i have done the HIV1 DNA test by last Tuesday came back with negative. (after 7 days to my exposure) , again this Tuesday (17 days) i did HIV_DUO ag/ab test , came back with negative , but i have throat infection for the past 4 days , i am taking antibiotics tablet , meanwhile my lympnodes are started growing , one near genital , one in arm , one in armpit , its paining too.
i am planning to do HIV-DUO combo test by april 5th . will that be negative ? i am scaring a lot. i have attached the report for your reference. Mar 8 evening i went to massage parlour around 3 , shall i take HIV-DUO by CMIA test on april 5th?

Please suggest me .
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (18 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
HIV COMBO test after 4 weeks for HIV 1 infection is confirmatory.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.

Throat infection can occur to anybody even in the absence of HIV infection. Lymph node enlargement at multiple sites in Early HIV infection (other than following local infection) would be totally painless. So your lymph node enlargement would unlikely be due to HIV infection.
Your HIV DUO test expected to be done on 5th April (4 weeks after the encounter) also, would be likely to be negative. The test after 4 weeks after the encounter would rule out HIV 1 infection conclusively.
Prevalence of HIV 2 infection is less than 1%. It would be ruled out by 12 weeks after the widow period.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (25 minutes later)
i mean to say ,only side of my genital its paining , other lymp nodes are not paining , just growing - i can feel them ,in arm i can see directly small bulge , whole day felt so tired today , cough and cold added by last 4 days. i am sure when i touch this lymp nodes , it not paining. i am worried a lot.
doctor
Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (5 hours later)
Brief Answer:
A thorough examination and appropriate investigations reveal the diagnosis

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.

Don't analyze your symptoms and signs by yourself. Get the help of an experienced physician. He/she will examine you and able to fix the reason for your problem other than HIV. Without any hesitation and worry consult your physician and get well soon.
Dr S.Murugan
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (8 minutes later)
Sure Doc. Last and final question , i don't mind about anxiety any more , living like this is more than die. I want to know from you is one thing , above exposure will transmit HIV or not? as you are very XXXXXXX person, i need to obey your words, if you say NO , i will start look into my life other activities and get out of this.

I am expecting one last final statement from you. That's it , what ever can happen i am ready to face. Waiting for your answer.

Thanks all your help done to me , appreciate you , i personally meet you in your clinic. Thanks again.
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Answered by Dr. Sankaranantham Murugan (9 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Sucking the breast carries an almost nil risk for HIV

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome once again.

Sucking the breast of a woman of unknown HIV status once is quite unlikely to infect anybody with HIV. So leave your all worries aside and carry on your routine happily.
Dr S.Murugan
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Can HIV Be Contracted To Consumption Of Breast Secretion?

Brief Answer: Breast sucking has negligible HIV risk.Symptoms unlikely to be due to HIV Detailed Answer: Hi, Welcome to HCM. HIV concentration in Breast secretions are very much less when compared to blood or semen or vaginal fluid. Even with regular feeding for more than six months by an infected mother, only 25-30% of the babies got infection through breast milk. So sucking the breast has a negligible risk for HIV. Then there is a possibility for her being uninfected with HIV so far. Moreover it is just 11 days past your encounter with that girl. Earliest HIV manifestations will occur only after 3-4 weeks after the infection, that too, not with all who infected(around 70%). So the symptoms present with you within 10 days could unlikely be due to HIV. All your symptoms can occur to anybody without the presence of an HIV infection due to any sore throat of viral or bacterial origin. So nothing to worry about HIV. Dr S.Murugan