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Can D&C Or Endometrial Ablation Procedure Help In Abnormal Uterine Bleeding?

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Posted on Fri, 18 Sep 2015
Question: Hi, I am 59 years old and postmenopausal by 5+ years. I have an annual pelvic and pap each year (most recently in january 2015) and have never had any abnormal results. About 2 weeks ago I began having light vaginal spotting, bleeding and a few small clots. I called my family doctor immediately (who reminds me every year that any postmenopausal bleeding is abnormal) and within a few days saw her. After a pelvic exam in which she saw blood and clots packed around the cervix, she referred me to a GYN whom I saw 2 dates later. Had a vaginal ultrasound done in her office which showed endometrium thickness of 8+ mm. The GYN doctor told me, because of my other risk factors (obese, no children, diabetis) there was probably 60% chance this was either cancer or pre-cancerous and in eother cas i wold need a complete hysterectomy. I was scheduled for D&C with hystoscopy which I had done today. After I woke up from the procedure, I was told that she also did a Myosure Ablation. I understand that she found polyps during the procedure but don't know how many or what size. They were removed, along with the endometrium, and sent to the lab. I wont see her for a follow-up appointnent for another week and have some questions i hope you can help answer for me. Here are my questions:
1) Why would she have decided to do this ablation during surgery? She did not even mention this in the office, I had no pre-op education about this nor did I sign a consent for it.
2) Does this mean that she no longer suspects cancer? I realize we need to wait for biopsy reports for final answer but everything I've read this afternoon says that an ablation is not appropriate when cancer is suspected.
3) how is the ablation different or better than the D&C? Don't they both do the same thing?
4) are polyps sometime cancerous?

I'm sure I will think of other questions but this is a good start. Please help me understand why this procedure was performed. Thank you!
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Answered by Dr. Ramadevi Wani (1 hour later)
Brief Answer:
Details below.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome to Healthcare magic.
I am Dr Ramadevi Wani. I will be answering your concerns today.

Here are the answers for your concerns.

1. She probably felt that it is just simple overgrowth of endometrium. That is why she did the ablation also.

2. Yes. She probably does not suspect cancer. Ideally we should have biopsy report before this ablation procedure is done.

3. D&C and ablation both help in reducing the uterine bleeding.
During D&C only the superficial lining of uterus can be scraped. So after few months with regeneration of endometrial lining from deeper layers uterine bleeding recurs.
Ablation burns the deeper layers of endometrial lining. So the endometrial lining does not usually regenerate and the uterine bleeding does not occur or reduces drastically.

4. Yes polyps are sometimes cancerous, specially if associated with postmenopausal bleeding ( risk is 10-16%).

I hope this helps.
If you have further concerns, I will be happy to answer.
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Ramadevi Wani (11 minutes later)
Thank you, but she would definitely taken the biopsies and removed the polyps BEFORE doing the ablation, correct?
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Answered by Dr. Ramadevi Wani (5 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
she would have taken the biopsy & removed the polyps before the ablation.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.

Surely she would have taken the biopsy and removed the polyps before the ablation procedure. Definitely she would have sent the samples for histopathology. There is no doubt about it.

If you have further concerns, do write to me.
Best wishes,
Dr Rama
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Ramadevi Wani (8 hours later)
Hi again, my doctor just called me to see how I was doing so I was able to ask her some questions. It seems that I was misinformed by the post op nurses about the ablation. She did not do that and said that would never be done without getting biopsy reports first. She said the polyps (3 of them) were in a difficult location so she used the myosure equipment to remove the polyps, which were sent, along with the d and c scrapings, to the lab. That makes so much more sense! She said if the biopsies come back as cancerous or pre-cancer, she will call and have me come in earlier, otherwise my follow up appointment with her is 1 week from today. So, hoping and praying I don't get that call. Thank you for answering my questions and for your assurance. I feel my doctor is right on track and so glad she called me today! Wasn't expecting that! Blessings, XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Ramadevi Wani (43 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
Your doctor is on the right track.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back.
Great relief to know that ablation was not done.
Your doctor is for sure on the right track.
In 8 out of 10 women it is not cancer.
I sincerely pray that you are one among these 8.

With regards
Dr Rama
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Ramadevi Wani (26 hours later)
Hello again. My family doctor just texted me that the pathology report is back -- benign endometrial polyps and small, benign submucosal leiomyomas. My doctor said these are fibroids. I will see the GYN doctor again next tuesday. What can I anticipate she will say are the treatment options, or will this not need any additional treatment at this time? I just want to know potential options so I can research them before I see her.

Also, does this mean I should see a GYN for my annual exam each year? I've always just seen my family doctor for this however if they need to keep an eye on these growths I could see the benefit of going to the GYN who would have access to ultrasounds and things that my daily doctor might not be able to do. Please,tell me what your recommendation would be for your patient in a similar situation.

Thanks so much, blessings, XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Ramadevi Wani (57 minutes later)
Brief Answer:
No need for any treatment at present.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
welcome back.
Thank God for the good news. Very happy to know that polyps are benign.

At present there is no need for any additional treatment.

In the literature the risk of recurrence of polyps is 3-13% during 2-9 years follow up.
Tiny polyps that you had are less likely to recur.
Since you have additional risk factors, for a similar woman in my hospital, I advise follow up with yearly ultrasound.
In case you develop vaginal bleeding in future then you need to get the ultrasound done at the earliest.
Please try to reduce weight and keep diabetes under control. These factors may help reduce the risk of recurrence of endometrial polyp.
I hope this helps.
If you have further concerns, I will be happy to answer.
with regards,
Dr Rama
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Ramadevi Wani (8 minutes later)
Thank you fir you answers, advise and support. So should I plan to see the GYN once a year for ultrasound and pelvic/pap (rather than family physician)?

I know about the weight and have already begun the process for gastric bypass surgery. I hope to have the surgery before the end of the year.

Blessings, XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Ramadevi Wani (9 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Do the Pap test once in 5 years.

Detailed Answer:
Hi Miss XXXXXXX

Yes , plan to see the gynecologist once a year for ultrasound only.

There is no need to repeat the Pap test every year. Do the Pap test once in 5 years.

I hope this helps.

Best regards,
Dr Rama
Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Follow up: Dr. Ramadevi Wani (15 hours later)
Hello there -- one more question, hopefully my last. I've had very little spotting and cramping since the D&C on Monday, much less than I anticipated. Until today. I'm having pretty much constant cramping and a much heavier flow of blood-like drainage today. Is it normal to have this "delayed" reaction after a D&C? -- XXXXXXX
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Answered by Dr. Ramadevi Wani (16 hours later)
Brief Answer:
Yes some people do get such bleeding.

Detailed Answer:
Hi,
Welcome back. Please excuse me for the delay in replying.
Yes some people do get such bleeding as the endometrium is getting healed. The cramping and bleeding should gradually reduce and stop in a week's time.

If cramping and bleeding worsen's please consult your Gynecologist as infection needs to be excluded in this scenario.

I hope this helps.
If you have further concerns, you can definitely write to me.
With regards,
Dr Rama.
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Above answer was peer-reviewed by : Dr. Chakravarthy Mazumdar
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Can D&C Or Endometrial Ablation Procedure Help In Abnormal Uterine Bleeding?

Brief Answer: Details below. Detailed Answer: Hi, Welcome to Healthcare magic. I am Dr Ramadevi Wani. I will be answering your concerns today. Here are the answers for your concerns. 1. She probably felt that it is just simple overgrowth of endometrium. That is why she did the ablation also. 2. Yes. She probably does not suspect cancer. Ideally we should have biopsy report before this ablation procedure is done. 3. D&C and ablation both help in reducing the uterine bleeding. During D&C only the superficial lining of uterus can be scraped. So after few months with regeneration of endometrial lining from deeper layers uterine bleeding recurs. Ablation burns the deeper layers of endometrial lining. So the endometrial lining does not usually regenerate and the uterine bleeding does not occur or reduces drastically. 4. Yes polyps are sometimes cancerous, specially if associated with postmenopausal bleeding ( risk is 10-16%). I hope this helps. If you have further concerns, I will be happy to answer.