Suffering for psoriatic arthritis, immuno suppresents not effective. Ways to reduce inflamation? - Online Doctor Chats
hi i am suffering for psoriatic arthritis
Go ahead with your query
Are you there?
i have tried immunosuppresents earlier but now their efficacy if poor
i hope you an immunologist
I am a general physician
I can help you within my expertise.
Then you can post a query on the website.
A specialist will be able to help you with it.
however can you sugest me afew ways to get sound sleep to keep my inflamation low
i am not able to sleep due to pain and this also affects my psoriasis
i sleep for no more than 4 hours a day
id want ot have sound sleep for at least 61/2 hrs
and the only reason is pain?
If pain is the reason then you need adequate pain control with medicines.
There are some high potency medicines available that can be prescribed to control pain.
i am on painkillers with antacids , i need to improve my sleep
i use indocap sr and pantop D
I will ask a few questions to be better able to help you
Can you tell me the timings of your sleep?
i go to bed at 10:00pm but can sleep til 1am then i get some sleep but wake up at 4:30 am
You may try a few things.
Before going to sleep you may take your pain-killers
Stop all brain work at least 1 hour before sleep
And then go to bed
Make sure that the room is dark and noise free
But it should not be taken for more than a few days
i take it occasionally just to make sure i dont get used to it
It is an anti-depressant
are there any safe sleeping pills
It needs to be taken daily for few weeks for any effect to be seen
one that do not cause death
Anti-depressants are not addictive
Sleep medicines are addictive
but i've noticed when i take tryptomer i sleep better
Yes, options are available but need to be taken under the guidance of a psyciatrist
Early morning awakening can be related to stress
tryptomer can relieve the stress feelings and give you good sleep
my doc told me told me that tryptomer will ensure you sleep well
how can one have stress whilst sleeping
what stress are we talking of anyways
i pray and meditate for 10 mins before going to bed at 10:00 pm
That is a good thing
i make sure im destressed
Actually anything can cause stress and resultant early morning awakening
thng is my XXXXXXX clock is kinda disturbed says my dietician
no i wake up early by choice so that i can go swimming for 1 1/2 hr
The main concern is that you are not able to go to sleep in time
It is better that you take your sleep.
Iknow swimming is good, but adequate rest is also important
i want to sleep from 10:00pm to 4:25am thats 6/12 hrs
tryptomer is usually prescribed to take care of stress
That is just about changing the clock then
It is something like coming out of a jet lag
It takes a few days
You need to go to bed early
actually wanted to ask you , if i swim fro bout 1 hr, cycel for 45 mins and work out in gym for 90 mins every day, how many hrs sleep is good sleep especialyy to build muscles and give rest to body
Even if you do not sleep, still your time of sleep will change slowly
Usually 6-9 hrs should be sufficient
i been trying to go to bed for bout 02 weeks at 10:00 pm its helped a bit but i feel drowsy through the day
You should wake up when you feel refreshed
I think it will take a few more days
i dont feel tired when i wake up, but i sleep in short spells
then the timing will set for 10 o clock
infact i wake up every 02 hrs dont know why
It can be many reasons like inadequate dinner
Since you are exercising a lot. you need adequate calories as well
I think you should try for a few more days.
Focus on good sleep hygiene
Take a good meal at night
If it does not work, then you may resort to medicines.
Do you have a question here?
ma'am, i dont want to get used to sleeping pills hence i work out and do bout 3 hrs of physical activity each day so taht i may sleep better
i need ot suggest few diets which may help me sleep better
Yes I can see that
Actually i want to just switch off as soon as i get in bed
It is normal to just lie for about half an hour
Everyone takes some time to go to sleep
In some people it can be longer for many reasons
When the causes are addressed the person is better able to sleep
i know a lot of my health concerns are because i don't sleep too well. Also i tried drinking milk as my dietician suggested but didint help
Thus sticking to proper sleep hygiene and relaxation help most
What health concerns do you have?
Psoriasis is one
Apart from that
Psoriatic artristis is another
Maybe I can help you with the concerns
In any type of pain including arthritis, it is a must to get proper pain-control through medicines
Otherwise proper sleep will not be possible
You may also try drinking clean water as it may help with reduction of other concurrent infections
I know indomethacin is usually not taken for a long time
i do drink ro treated water daily
I was thinking of adding codiene in your pain-killers
i take it in spells of 15 days and then give a break for bout same time
docter where from are you ? Meaning India? or abroad
I am from Canada but currently in India
If India, then would be be ok to concur with my doc from hinduja hospital
Sorry I did not understand what you meant
I am in Bangalore
i meant taking an opinion with my rhematologist at hinduja hospital who has been handling my case for bout 02 years
Yes I understand what you mean
or would it help if is sent yuo the scanned copy of my prescription
But it is more appropriate if you discuss your options with the doctor directly
Yes you can send me a scanned copy
Address it to my name
i discussed with my doc he says take tryptomer often, i afraid i kinda got dependant on it then
hence all these questions.
You may ask him for two or three alternatives
You may take then according to the severity of pain
would it be possible to mail me a few tips ( dietary) to induce good sleep on YYYY@YYYY
I have taken a note of it and I will send it as soon as possible
actually ive been advised to not take painkillers for prolonged duration. moreover i can mange with slight pain. but i ned to get my sleep inorder ASAP to make sure i dont cause damage to my muscles due to lcak of sleep
Why have you been advised against pain-killers?
Because of acidity?
my doc says and i too have read that they can lead to cardiac arrests, for acidity i take pantop D an antaacid with the painkillers
How bad is the acidity?
i dont have any acidity issues
in fact when i wake up i drink 02 litres of water every day
Most people take NSAIDs for life without much problems
I think you should discuss in detail about your medicines with your doctor
no actually the doc prescribed pantop 40 and Pantop D as well but he did so jus to make sure no aciity probs
Quality of life should not be affected because of inadequate medicines
But you are having issues because of inadequate pain-control
You may get a whole list of pain-killers that you can use
ma'am appreciate your veiws but, i was looking forward to seeking some help on other issues such as sleep and food which basically can keep me healthly
I will send you a diet chart and sleep hygiene on your email id
As of now teh pain isnt so severe, the pain is kinda cyclical, it goes through its high and lows, i can do cardio and swimming whch means it isnt that bad
by the way how are general physicians different from other doctors
I was only worried about your pain coming in the way of your sleep
actually when should one contact a general physician?
General physicians have done graduation like MBBS
fIRST STEO MOSTLY IS TO CONTACT A GENERAL PHYSICIAN
coz i have visited one in 3 years
sorry if i sounded rude
If he thinks that a specialist is needed then he may send you to one
It is ok
But with all ortho, immuno and other docs around i was told mine is an auto immune disorder
hence i frequented only these docs
Ma'am, i appologise if you felt offended, that wasnt my intention
No I am ok
I just sent you a diet chart that you may refer
I will send you something on sleep hygiene too
Usually I do not advise something for post-dinner but you may take milk, etc before sleeping to help you with the sleep
Are you there?
can i take health supplements with milk
like protienex or Amul pro
Actually supplements are only advised for conditions causing weight loss
actually from my height 177 cm im 75 kgs
Yo may take multivitamins though
I do not think you need nutritional supplements
i intend to build muscle groups to reduce the load on my knees and ankles, and upper body to strengthen my shoulders
weight of 75 kg is ok for 177 cm height
Yes you may
Mostly if sleep is getting disturbed you may take a hearty dinner so that you do not wake up because of hunger
Any other question?
doc im kinda taking more of your time, can we discuss this later ( if need be) . Was really nice talking to you.
appreciate the prompt response and for being patient with me
You can always login again to chat with a doctor 24/7
If you do not have more questions, I will close the chat window now.
yeah but i guess it woudl be soem different doc and i'd have to type the whole storyagain
I am here to address your concerns
You can ask for me specifically
You can also talk to me on phone
You just need to ask the customer care team to put the call across to me
that'd be great coz i would not have to go through he drill of telling bout it again and again.
meanwhile doc do you practice outside of the tele support
Currently I am not practicing
It was nice talking to you
I will close the chat window now.
I will also send you the email on sleep hygiene
thanks anyways was really great talking to you, actually kinda got me distressed
thanks ma'am, bye for now
Do not worry
Bye for now
Related questions you may be interested in
Recent questions on