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Scared of HIV transmission through shaving cuts - Online Doctor Chats

Date : 21-Feb-2012
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User :   Hi Doctor
Doctor :   Hi
Doctor :   How can I help you?
Doctor :   I am Dr XXXXXXXX here.
Doctor :   Please proceed with your query.
User :   sure
User :   i already chated with one doctor..... but i think confirmation with another will give me some piece
User :   here is my story..........
User :   i am currently in XXXX from 4 months...... i started visiting strip club from october end. till 6th of this month i almost visited 10-12 times. each time i took 1 or 2 lap dances which were about 5-10 mins
Doctor :   Ok
User :   in the whole dance she rubbed her vagina with her panty on on my pant and underwrear on. every time i shaved my face ....and sometimes there were cuts from shaving.
User :   previously i dint know that hiv can transmit thro semen or vaginal fluids. when i come to know that i got extreamly scared from it
Doctor :   Ok
User :   because in almost every lap dance i kissed and rubbed my face over the neck, between breasts ond some times on butts and thighs of the girl
User :   i am totally scared now beacause of her vaginal fluids on her body skin or butt or thigh
User :   or even some trace of semen from teh previous customer
User :   i nomally shave at morning 9am and lap dances at 2-3pm
Doctor :   Ok
User :   so there is 4-5 hours gap
User :   after shave i take hot water bath and then a hot coffee
Doctor :   May I know since when are you visiting this club?
User :   just before lap dance i take cold derink
User :   from october last week to december 1st week....but once or twice a week
User :   but i never kissed or rubbed my face on any sexual organs
Doctor :   Ok
User :   i always take care of it
Doctor :   Did you engage in an actual sexual intercourse during any of those visits?
User :   every dance i cum in my pant and after 10-15 seconds i asked her to stop the dance
User :   no doctor..... i always within my limits
User :   only kissing and rubbing around the neck, between and over the breasts (on on nipples) and some times on butts and thigh
User :   i mean rubbing my face on her body
Doctor :   Ok
User :   when i come to know that even semen or vaginal fluids can transmit hiv....i got scared a lot
Doctor :   Let me brief you.
Doctor :   From medical literature, yes, HIV can transit through any body fluids.
Doctor :   However, this chances are high if there is plenty of fluid(about 10 - 20ml of fluids)
User :   i dint get you
Doctor :   Let me put that in simple words.
Doctor :   The rate of transmission is proportional to the amount of fluid, that you get exposed to.
Doctor :   based on this rule, transmission rate through exposure with body fluids such as sweat, saliva, breast secretions (which are very low when compared to vaginal secretions) is negligible.
Doctor :   Similarly,
Doctor :   it also depends on the area of the body that is exposed.
User :   i am worrying about semen of other customer whom she gave the revious lap dance and may be her own vaginal fluids on butts or thing, which may come in contact of my shaved cuts on face
Doctor :   larger the area of contact( non skin covered area such as mucous membrane, eyes, nose and so on), higher is the chances of exposure.
User :   *gave the previous lap dance
User :   in my activities, what is the risk?
Doctor :   and finally the rate of transmission is very low, if the body contact has been exposed to the outer environment for a long period of time.
Doctor :   The virus dies when exposed to environment outside the body within minutes.
User :   the shaved cuts on my face were atleast 4-5 hours older
User :   is there any possible exposure of these cuts?
User :   they are not bleeding at the time of lap dances
Doctor :   If you exposed, a large cuts and skin exposed area, and the secretions that you got contacted with were a recent one, then there is a small chance of infection.
User :   the cuts are around 2-3 milimeter across
Doctor :   2-3 millimeter cuts are not large enough.
User :   or lesser than that
User :   even if a single hiv cell enters the body thro cuts, is there any infection?
Doctor :   No,
Doctor :   These cuts could be significant, if they were to be fresh, but since it's hours ago, the chances of transmission is unlikely.
User :   so hows many cells or fuilds minimum required for infection?
Doctor :   a single virus is unlikely to produce infection.
User :   i always washed my face from cold water after the dance
User :   may be after 10 mins
Doctor :   The chances of infection depend the viral load of the infected person, the amount of fluid that you get exposed to and the area of contact.
Doctor :   If there was no actual unprotected sexual intercourse with any of the club member, then the chance of transmission is insignificant and almost nil.
Doctor :   But since your anxious,
User :   i not even kissed a single girl
User :   the intercource is far more away from me
Doctor :   the best means of destressing yourself and be getting relieved of this anxiety is to
Doctor :   see yourself that you are not infected.
Doctor :   This can be done.
User :   what about the eyes and nise you told?
User :   *nose
Doctor :   Both eye and nose have protective barrier through with the transmission of infection is restricted.
Doctor :   Except for certain virus(that doesn't include HIV) no other organism can infect an intact nose or eyes
User :   but in above you written eyes , nose and so on?
User :   oh k
User :   how ling these shace cuts on face take time to heal to avoid an infection from hiv?
User :   *how long
Doctor :   Other infections will get transmitted only if this protective barrier is damaged. Such damage is noticed in trauma.
User :   *shaved cuts
Doctor :   Minor cut where the skin is not peeled of, healing can take time, however
Doctor :   the cuts get closed by the skin and the clotted blood.
Doctor :   This can occur within few minutes.
User :   the cuts might caused due to pimples but i am nnot sure
User :   i always wear a underwear and thin pant........... she rubbed my pant over that 5-10 mins and 10-15 seconds after i cummed
User :   is there is any risk from transmission?
User :   she used her vaginal area for rubbing with always a panty on
Doctor :   May I ask if you get recurrent fever, sorethroat?
User :   no fever....when i got scared last week.... found lottle nervousness, but it lasts only for not even one day
Doctor :   Ok
Doctor :   Do you notice any swelling in your neck, armpits or groin?
User :   *little nervousness....not now
User :   swelling means?
Doctor :   any kind of small lump?
User :   i dint find any unusual thing till yet..... only nerouvousness for half a day when i got scared
Doctor :   which are pea sized and multiple?
Doctor :   Ok
Doctor :   Based on the details mentioned, the chance that you may be infected are very remote to almost nil.
User :   so rubbing on my pant with underwear on is a risk?
Doctor :   This is because, your exposure risk is not significant, the area of exposure is also not significant
User :   and the lap dancer with her panty on
User :   oh k
Doctor :   and you don't seem to have any symptoms that can suggest that you may be
Doctor :   having the infection.
Doctor :   Since your anxious,
User :   but how long these virus lives outside on her body skin with vaginal fluids or other customer's semen?
Doctor :   the best and the only way to get rid of the anxiety is to see for your self that you are not infected.
User :   with the chat with 2 doctors..... most of my wories are already gone
Doctor :   The virus when exposed to outside environment dies within 3-5 minutes.
Doctor :   Hence your exposure risk is insignificant.
User :   yesterday i gave a hiv rna pcr test..... fater that i found that there is a chance of false positive..... so i think i dont want to see the results form it
Doctor :   You need not concern.
Doctor :   It will be negative.
Doctor :   You will be out of your anxiety, once you see that.
User :   sorry for my very bad english Doctor
Doctor :   hence I suggest that you see the results.
Doctor :   This is the best way to counter your present anxiety.
Doctor :   Have you followed what I have suggested?
Doctor :   Do you have any other query?
User :   since i am onsite and going back to india on jan end.... so i dont have that much courage to see it
User :   but your answers and previous Doctor's answers kicked away my most of the worries
User :   now i think i can able to do my day to day activites correctly
User :   thank you for the information you have provided to me
Doctor :   Thanks for consulting us. Bye for now.
Doctor :   Wish you good health and have a great day
User :   thanks doctor
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