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Rectal bleeding, abdominal pain and hemorrhoids treatment - Online Doctor Chats

Date : 13-Jan-2012
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Doctor :   hi
Doctor :   how can i assist you
User :   hi is this the same Dr. that assisted me a week or so ago?
Doctor :   ya proceed with your queries
User :   Do you remember the history of our discussion or should I go over that again?
Doctor :   no thats k.. u can proceed with your queries
User :   I have had some abdominal pain, but more concerningly some rectal bleeding and discomfort
User :   bleeding goes back more than 6 months
User :   maybe a year
User :   6 months ago I saw a colorectal surgen that found a skin tag and enlarged papillae
User :   and thought I had fissures
Doctor :   ya i know your history i understand
Doctor :   did you get the ultrasound done
User :   ok good you do remember, I had a lot of tests done now
User :   I went to a new GP
User :   that did blood, urine and rectal exam
User :   all 3 came back normal but he refered me to a Gastroenterologist
User :   so I met with the Gastroenterologist
Doctor :   k
Doctor :   then
Doctor :   what did he say
User :   I mentioned my symptoms and he did a rectal exam and he could find the enlarged papillae, he didn't find much else at the first appointment but scheduled me for a sigmoidoscopy
User :   so I had to do a bowel cleansing prep before it
Doctor :   k
User :   which I think caused a lot of problems
Doctor :   k
User :   a lot of inflamation of the lump, soreness...
User :   some bleeding
User :   So yesterday I had the Sigmoidoscopy done
Doctor :   k
User :   good news is that my colon looked good
Doctor :   did you get the reports
User :   no diverticula
Doctor :   k
User :   yes
Doctor :   k
User :   I have the report but it is not detailed as I wanted
Doctor :   k
User :   so colon looked very good and I saw it myself on the monitor
User :   maybe I should still get an ultrasound but lets come back to that
Doctor :   was there any biopsy done to rule out cancer?
User :   no, he said it was not needed
Doctor :   k
User :   there were no signs of cancer
Doctor :   were there any masses abnormal 1 s
User :   yes
Doctor :   so can you read the report for me in full
Doctor :   what masses and where?
User :   let me get the report, one sec, I believe I know more detail than the report though from what he said and what I saw
Doctor :   k anyways get the report
User :   ok, it just has a check under findings that says hemmorhoids
User :   which he thought was not an issue but I feel this is very bad to have
User :   I think the prep was part of what caused them
User :   he did not note if they were external or internal though
User :   because I know the treatment for them is different
User :   I asked if they could be removed and he said only if they become a pain
User :   they are very, very uncomfortable
Doctor :   k
User :   especially after the bowel prep
User :   now I feel like I have stool there all the time
User :   and a pain when I sit
Doctor :   k
Doctor :   i think the doctor shouldn't have advised you for an sigmoidoscopy
User :   One other thing
User :   he recommended a high fibre diet
User :   which I have already been eating for a few months
Doctor :   because the haemorrhoids commonly called piles get worse
User :   yes called piles in most countries
User :   I had no idea that could happen when I agreed
Doctor :   ya i can give you some tips to get rid of it
Doctor :   did he tell you which degree of piles do you have
Doctor :   ya it happens when you are mis diagnosed
User :   no but the way he talked about them sounded like he didn't think it was a problem at all, but I have noticed symptoms and have felt a lump on my right posterior (mostly external) that puffs up under pressure
Doctor :   k
User :   I didn't get nearly as much detail as I was hoping for and felt too rushed to ask all the questions I wanted to ask
Doctor :   it is external and may be 1st degree piles
User :   Let me list all symptoms
User :   maybe you can make a determination based on the description at least try
Doctor :   k
User :   1. Lump that appears on the external spincter from pea sized to large kidney bean size that is sore to the touch, flattens out a minute after BM when the sphincter relaxes
Doctor :   better u make a note of what and all tips i provide you
User :   2. bright red blood ocassionally about 1-2 times a month
Doctor :   k
User :   3. Sharp pain of pressure from anus to the tailbone when I sit, sometimes feels like I'm sitting on a baseball
Doctor :   use 1. high fibre diet foods like vegetables green leaf and fruits
User :   4. Sometimes feels like I have stool or gas in the rectum that won't be releived
User :   ok that's my list
User :   1. yes I have been eating a very high fibre diet
User :   even when this all started
Doctor :   2 use sitz bath thrice daily , put luke warm water mixed with the solution and sit in a tub for 10 min
User :   hmm, what kind of solution?
Doctor :   avoid spicy food and use squat toilets
Doctor :   avoid meat for a month or so
Doctor :   till symptoms are relieved
Doctor :   any aneasthetic solution will do
Doctor :   avoid straining in toilets and using laxatives
Doctor :   go for toilets frequently and do not strain
Doctor :   frequent toilet use can decrease the size of the stools and avoid the irritation
Doctor :   regular exercises mild ones
Doctor :   avoid long journeys sitting and walking for a long distance
User :   I have 2 hours of driving each day to get to and from work
Doctor :   avoid using tight clothing and use loose ones if you are comfortable don't wear any inner wears
Doctor :   k
Doctor :   in that case take a break inbetween and use soft pads underneath
Doctor :   avoid putting hands or irritating the area
Doctor :   maintain high hygienic conditions
Doctor :   take bath regularly
Doctor :   avoid high detergents soaps or fluid for taking bath as these may cause irritaion
Doctor :   are you noting down my points
User :   yes
Doctor :   are you able to understand ?
Doctor :   any doubts u can stop me
User :   yes, well
User :   I have tried a number of these
User :   Eating a high fibre diet and very low to no meat intake
User :   for a few weeks
Doctor :   k
User :   lost 20 pounds and am almost underweight now
User :   baths, I have been taking as much as possible
Doctor :   but this time follow my instructions surely u will be benifited and u will be relieved of the symptoms in 3 weeks
User :   but can only afford time 1-2 times a week
User :   for baths
Doctor :   don't worry there are many veg meals that serve the same quantity of calories and minerals and vitamins
Doctor :   so if you plan your meals on that i think u will regain your weight
User :   sometimes such high fruit and vegetable intake makes me gassy and large soft stools when can cause problems
User :   I guess I can continue on this plan, but it has not been working so well for me thus far
Doctor :   no thats the reason i told you to use toilets frequently
User :   ok
User :   Breakfast I eat fruit and whole wheat english muffin or oat meal, lunch a sandwich on wholegrain bread with some lean meat or fish like tuna and side salad, for dinner I have salad and vegeatbles and maybe chicken for instance
Doctor :   please fill up the feed back form
User :   that is a typical diet for me for the past month or so
User :   ok, form complete
Doctor :   thank you
User :   In terms of outcome does this only improve symptoms or can this cure the piles so that they would not been seen on next examination?
Doctor :   ya if you follow up the instructions carefully for 3 weeks it will be cured
Doctor :   chances of reccurence are there if you neglect in 1st
Doctor :   and only for final and not responding cases are treated with surgery
Doctor :   and homeopathy is another option
User :   What about rubber banding or infrared treatment? Are these considered surgery?
Doctor :   those are very costly and u need to get it done frequently
Doctor :   but done for only cases not responding cases and final stage cases
User :   High cost is not so much of a concern for me, my health is my primary concern
Doctor :   k
User :   the frequency may be an issue for me though
User :   I want the maimum treatment to prevent recurrance
Doctor :   in that case u can try it after following these primary treatment options for 15 days
User :   ok, can you tell me more about homeothearapy too?
User :   any recommendations there?
Doctor :   that u need not worry since u will be cured completely in 3 weeks time
User :   what if I can only manage 1 bath every day or so?
User :   is that still enough to succeed?
Doctor :   homeopathy they use herbal leaves and stuff and they have their natural medicines for curing
Doctor :   ya that is not a problem
Doctor :   but sitz bath you have to practice it for thrice daily
User :   ahh, I don't think this is possible
User :   I work in an office from 8 to 7
User :   add to that an hour before and after for commute
User :   I am very nervous
Doctor :   atleast morning and evening hrs u can try
Doctor :   no need to be nervous
User :   ok, I will try but am very worried I won't succeed and that this problem could become chronic
User :   I have heard stories where people end up in surgery and are in too much pain for months after
User :   from piles
User :   I don't want to ever end up in that position
User :   That is rare?
Doctor :   i don't think in your case the surgery is needed
Doctor :   no the chronic cases take 2 yrs to manifest
Doctor :   so you are waiting for just 15 days
Doctor :   no worry
User :   ok
User :   I'll see what I can do, thank you very much, I would like to follow up with you in a 10-15 days
Doctor :   Is there any thing else I can help you with?
Doctor :   Thanks for consulting HealthcareMagic. Bye for now. Please refer your friends to our service.
User :   no that is all, thank you
Doctor :   thank you
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