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Baby aborted due to cystic hygroma - Online Doctor Chats

Date : 13-Jan-2012
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User :   Hello Doctor
Doctor :   hi
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how can i help you?
User :   can i know with whom i am talking
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User :   ok
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please proceed with your health query
User :   Sir i am talking to you with lot of stress & afraid
User :   i will explain my condition
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please go ahead
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and relax first, do not panic
User :   I am married and my wife had an abortion with a baby for Cystic Hygroma
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ok
User :   and the doctors said reason could be Chromosomal Abnomalities
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ok
User :   but in my family no one had any such thing
Doctor :  
ok
User :   but when i did research in internet came to know that chromosomal abnormalities or by birth or can occur when an aXXXXXXXXlt grows ( cases with cancer)
User :   i am now in doubt that i may be having some type of cancer
Doctor :  
please provide your age and your wife's age
User :   i will tell why i am thinking like that
User :   my age is 29 and wifes age is 24
Doctor :   ok, please go ahead
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ok
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both your age is fine, not to worry
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kindly proceed with what is making you think of cancer
User :   i will get headache daily and also i have some tumors on my hands which are growing very slowly from my 20 years of age
User :   but no one knows my wife also
Doctor :  
what kind of tumours are they?
User :   i dont know exactly
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since when they are present?
User :   for past 8 years are so
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and have you done any investigations or examination for them?
User :   initally one was there , but now 2,3 are there on my arms
User :   no
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how are they like?could you describe them to me?
User :   no pain
User :   like in the size of nut
User :   growing very very slowly
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ok
User :   i also think think these days there is no growth but they are there
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how do they fell? soft firm or hard?
User :   when i press them they are hard only
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ok
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and where are they present?
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have you noticed any color change in them?
User :   back of arm just below ellbow
User :   no color change
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are they below the skin? or are they presenting like swellings?
User :   swelling means
User :   i think below the skin only
Doctor :  
something like raised areas from skin
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ok
User :   other than headache and some tierdness i dont have any other symptoms
User :   i am ealthy
User :   and able to do all my work daily
Doctor :  
i will suggest you to get these examined by a doctor, and if they raise suspicion of cancer, he will ask you to do a FNAC for them to see if they contain cancer cells
User :   but what is your feelings on my sympotms
Doctor :  
since you are healthy and no other problems, then they could also be XXXXXXXXe to small lymph nodes
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for which you need not worry
User :   and what are the chances all becuase of these issues by baby can have some chromsomal defects
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so this needs further evaluation to see what these are
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coming to the chromosomal issue that came for your baby
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both you and your wife will need genetic testing and counselling
Doctor :   also i will tell you few more things about the chromosomal abnormalities
User :   ya we want to take karyotyping but i am afraid if my wife knows any problem with me like cancer she will be in tears and i want her to be happy till I am there
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which wil help you to relax and slowly point out the probable cause for the problem occured
User :   one min
Doctor :   do not worry about it, first get it examined and an FNAC done
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if the FNAC shows cancer cells in satge I, then they can be treated with medications and radiotherapy
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*stage
User :   but generally if a father have a cancer all his chromosmas will have mutations or the effected cells
Doctor :  
it will depend on which gene is having the cancer cells
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if it is the normal genes other than the sexual genes, then any baby can have it
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if the problem is in X or Y chromosome
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then the baby having X chromosome gets its, which is a girl
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and if the Y chromosome has it then the baby getting Y chromosome gets it that boy baby
User :   ok
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now coming to chromosomal abnormalities
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Chromosomes are structures within cells that contain a person's genes. A gene is a segment of DNA and contains the code for a specific protein that functions in one or more types of cells in the body
User :   but according to my symptoms line small tumors on back arms and head ache + i also have some skin rashs and itching
Doctor :   Every normal human cell, except for sperm and egg cells, has 23 pairs of chromosomes for a total of 46 chromosomes.
Doctor :   ok
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all your symptoms need further evaluation
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do not base your judgement on them before confirming the cause
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of your symptoms
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going ahead with the chromosomal abnormalities and what can cause mutations in them. shal i continue?
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Sperm and egg cells have only one of each pair of chromosomes for a total of 23. Each chromosome contains hundreds to thousands of genes.
Doctor :   The sex chromosomes are one of the 23 pairs of chromosomes. Normal people have 2 sex chromosomes, and each is either an X or a Y chromosome. Normal females have two X chromosomes (XX), and normal males have one X and one Y chromosome (XY).
Doctor :   Chromosomal abnormalities can affect any chromosome, including the sex chromosomes. Chromosomal abnormalities include having extra chromosomes (addition or XXXXXXXXplication), missing chromosomes (deletion), or parts of one chromosome misplaced onto another.
Doctor :   Small changes (mutations) may occur in a specific gene. These changes do not affect the structure of the chromosomes. Some mutations in a gene cause few or no problems. Other mutations cause serious disorders such as sickle cell anemia, cystic fibrosis, cystic hygroma and muscular dystrophy.
Doctor :   these mutations can occur XXXXXXXXe to various reasons like radiations, virus infections, or chemicals
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these need not be present from birth
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have you followed what i have said?
User :   I read all this Doctor about chromose abnormalities i want to know If a father has a cancer kind of disease , will he not able to get children?
Doctor :  
if the cancer is related to chromosomal reason or mutation, it wil still depend on what cancer he has got
Doctor :  
usually getting children will not be a problem
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what we need to do now is
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get your lesions of arm examined and FNAC done on them
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to see for cancer cells
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if cancer cells are present, then this test will also tell you what kind of cencer cells are they
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which along wth the karyotyping will tell you whether this cancer will be inherited to your children
Doctor :  
usually prostate, colon, rectum, ovarian, cervical and breast cancer have a family history
User :   generally if a person is having cancer what are the symptoms?
Doctor :  
either chromosomal cause or a person in family will have these
Doctor :  
general symptoms of cancer varies depending on type of cancer
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cancer canbe benign that non life threatening
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or malignant- life threatening
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both can have common symptoms like loss of appetite, wieght loss, growth in the cancer
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and the other type of symptoms based on the kind of cancer cells present
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the malignant cancers
User :   i dont have any weight loss for past 5,6 years , but my small tumors are there for past 6,7 years
User :   just understnad the stage i am
Doctor :  
are known to spread faster, grow faster, with more weight loss and less life expentancy
User :   i am thinking thinking and having no sleep , becuase no one to tell about the state
Doctor :  
so there are all possibilities that they may be benign
Doctor :  
i can understand your situations and i m trying my best to explain things to you such that you can relax
Doctor :  
the symptoms that you have told me regarding your tumors/lesions
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appear benign to me
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which can be confirmed by a simple FNAC test in which
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the cells from those lesions/tumors will be taken
Doctor :   and examined under the microscope
User :   if it is benign are they are so serious to my life?
Doctor :  
which will tell whether they are normal cells with increased growth or cancer cells
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if they come out benign
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they are not serious
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they can be left alone
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but if the cells in them are arising form nerve tissue or the muscle then they should be excised soon as they have potential to turn cancerous and life threatenning anytime
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so what you need to do now is go to your doctor and ask for examination
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and FNAC test for the so called tumors/lesions on your hand
Doctor :  
you need not let your wife know about this untill the results are known to you
User :   In case in serious cancers because as i am telling i am having for past 8 years small small growth in the tumor generally how many years will the cancer become serious
User :   i will do the test anyway
User :   ya i will now tell to her
User :   i lover her and ours is love marriage
Doctor :  
in these eight years hav ethey grown in size?
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have you had weight loss of more than 3 kgs in a month anytime?
User :   yes
User :   no
User :   never
User :   i am weighing at 73 kgs for continous 6 years no weight loss
Doctor :  
are you having loss of appetite in past 3-4 years?
User :   appetite means?
Doctor :  
if no weigh loss, then this is a positive finding, do not worry
Doctor :  
appetite means hunger or ability to eat
User :   no i dont find hunger , and generally if i eat small amount i will feel like i am full and i would like to eat in small small amounts
Doctor :  
ok
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but is your diet come down anytime?
User :   no i eat quite good
User :   but i feel tierd and getting sleep
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or are you eating similar amout of food from say about the time you got the lesions/tumors
User :   i sleep very well
Doctor :  
now you wil have these symptoms as you are stressed XXXXXXXXe to the recent happenings in your life
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and also as you are thinking too much about the tumors after reading about them on the net
User :   you know i will tell from when i think like that
Doctor :  
i suggest you stop concentrating on the things you read on the net
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as the things written there need not apply to you case al the time
User :   when i was 20 i get some fever day after day and some how it was not there and in next three months my skin color got changed to yellowish , and these tumors came after 1 year from that and they are there + headache
Doctor :  
you need to confirm what is happening first and then combine the results with the data in the net and come
User :   all this is history
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to a conclusion
User :   but other than headache i dont have any other findings
Doctor :  
which is why i am recommending you for a FNAC which wil quieten all your questions
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rather than keepin on thinking what it can possibly be
User :   i am just trying to get some info and want to relax
User :   because of all happening around
Doctor :   yes i understand that
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and so i am suggesting eveything step by step
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you are getting confused with all the things hapening around and with reading the vast info given on the net
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so at first
User :   because for me my parents and wife all are happy with me and well settled so i dont have any one to share and not in a position to go to a doctor directly and tell all this because of afraid so getting directions from you
Doctor :  
get a detailed examination done, followed by a FNAC for the tumors/lesions on your arm
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once that is done you can find if they are benign or malignant, if either of them, look for further treatment options
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if the FNAC come benign you need not worry
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if the FNAC comes malignant, it wil also tell you what stage it is in, since you do not have any other symptoms of cancer, this is unlikely to occur
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even if this does happen to be malignant, it should be operated soon to avoid complications and increase your life expectancy
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next what you need to do is
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get a karyotyping done for both yourself
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and your wife
User :   so as for malignant weight loss will be there ?
Doctor :  
yes, weight loss will be significant
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also immunity will come down, making you fall sick very often
User :   i am having 78% hemoglobin and 8600 WBC no sugar
Doctor :  
so after the karyotyping, the cause for the cystic hygroma in your baby will get pointed out
User :   but i have a Blood Pressure
Doctor :   that is fine
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so the karyotyping will tell you whether the problem in baby came from your side or your wifes side
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whatever is the result
User :   one more doubt sir
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you wil get the counseling done
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to know what you can expect in next pregnancies
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please go ahead
User :   if human have cancer all his chromoses will get translocated by cancers or only the cells which have impacted
Doctor :  
it will depend on th type of cancer
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if the cancer is chrosomal related
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all the cells will have them
Doctor :  
that is the chromosome
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but only the cells that are to be affected XXXXXXXXe to that chromosomal abnormaility will show the effect
Doctor :  
the chromosomal abnormalities can be grouped into many, it need not be only translocation of genes
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so only a genetic testing involving karyotyping will tell you what is the problem happened
User :   sure
Doctor :  
whether is is XXXXXXXXe to tranlocation of genes, mutaions, addition of genes to some or deletion of genes from some chromosomes
User :   and my skin color changed 10 years back to yellowish color and then these tumors formed
Doctor :  
Is there any thing else I can help you with?
User :   i think all this are related to something
Doctor :   ok
User :   but as i dont see any other major problems in health , i never went to the doctor
Doctor :  
kidly do not assume things on your own
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get this evaluated further
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to come to a conclusion
User :   to be frank i dont went to the doctor for past 5 years for any other issues because i dont have anything other than this headache + tierdness sometimes
Doctor :  
it wil help you to relax also
Doctor :  
then it is all more positive not no be worried
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just get these lesions examined now
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and get the FNAC done
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and the karyotyping
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instead of prolonging them and thingking over the possibilities yourself
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you wil have definitive answers to your problems and symptoms
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rather than self thinking and liking them to each other and getting tensed and lossing sleep
User :   Sure and how much time the FNAC WILL be done and the results will come?
Doctor :  
usually FNAC should take 3-4 days for results to come
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if done in the same lab
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if the FNAC sample is ent to some other lab thay might take upto 1 week
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Is there any thing else I can help you with?
Doctor :   are you there?
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is there any other queries you want to ask?
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are you there?
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User :   ya
User :   sorry
User :   for late reply
Doctor :  

no problems
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have you followed what i have explained to you regarding your lesions and symptoms and the test required to be done?
User :   but it is horrible to have all these toughts and reading stories / info on internet and having no sleep
User :   and close all my doubts positive or negative
User :   what ever the result is
User :   i will go to a checkup for sure
Doctor :  
i can understand your situations and hence i suggest not to apply the things that you read but get definitive answers and then look for other options
Doctor :  
Is there any thing else I can help you with?
User :   mm i have but it is all related to gathering the info , and how much more time i can chat with you
Doctor :  
you can chat with me for any length of time, but without the test results with us it will just be beating around the bush
Doctor :  
i suggest you quieten all your queries for the timebeing
Doctor :  
get the FNAC and karyotyping done
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and get back to me with the results in case you have any doubts
Doctor :   we are there to help you 24/7
User :   sure but one last questions , as i have tumors only on back of arms 2 on right hand and one on back hand , no where else on stomach or chest or legs
Doctor :  
ok
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Please fill the feedback form and comment box, and say done when done, while i answer your next query.
User :   is any specific cancers can have tumors n hands
Doctor :  
cancers can appear anywhere in the body
Doctor :  
the presentation depends on the type of cells affected and where the cancerous change has taken place.
Doctor :  
the cancers specifically occuring in extremities include skin cancers, nerve, muscle and bone related. they can be from fat cells, nerve cells, or any other cell
Doctor :  
the FNAC or a biopsy leads to confirmation of the type of cancer
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Is there any thing else I can help you with?
User :   will the cancers be present for 8 years or more with no other symptoms physically or any other symptoms
Doctor :   benign cancers can present for over years
User :   other type severial cancers in how many years they will effect the persons with all sympotoms
Doctor :  
but we need to be sure whether it is really cancer or not
Doctor :  
as i have previously said they could be just lymph nodes
User :   in case of lymph nodes what symptoms we will have and why they will come
Doctor :  
as they have not affected you with the classical symptoms of cancer
Doctor :  
they can come XXXXXXXXe to repeated injuries, infections or can be idiopathic with no reasons
User :   we will have headache and tierd ness in those cases of lymph nodes?
Doctor :   no, the headches may not be realted to these
Doctor :  
headaches can be XXXXXXXXe to migraine, tension or stress
Doctor :  
tiredness also could be not related to these being caused XXXXXXXXe to stress itself
User :   but i heard or studied in cancers we will have headaches
Doctor :  
headaches occur when cancers are related to brain or nervous system
User :   dont mind for so many questions because i am shooting all doubts i have for past so many years
Doctor :  
how sure are you that the lesions you have are XXXXXXXXe to cancer itself?
Doctor :   we cannot say 1) whether it is really cancer
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2) whether it is malignant
User :   i am not , it is just a guess because headache + these lesions are started exactly 9 years back
Doctor :  
3) whether your symptoms are inter related
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4) whether this is related to your baby's cystic hygroma
Doctor :  
so instead of just beating around the same things over and over again, it is recommended that you go for examination, show your lesions, get them evaluated
Doctor :  
and a FNAC done in case cancer is suspected
Doctor :  
you should have gone for evaluation atleast once in these 9 years rather than carrying all the doubts in side you
Doctor :  
you would not have had all these questions
Doctor :  
also once the lesions were present for more than year, you should have got them also examined
Doctor :  
you would have been free of mind now
User :   correct but if i know i am having cancer and family relationship and responsibilites i can't even sleep so kept quiet as i dont have any other symptoms
User :   all this rushed because my baby has a problem
Doctor :  
rather than linking all of these to the present situation
User :   and i too took it serious now
Doctor :  
since you you dont have any other symptoms in all possibilities you will not have malignant cancer
Doctor :  
and since you worry so much about your family
Doctor :  
you should be more vigilant regarding your health
Doctor :  
cos if you are in good health you can take care of them and be with them
Doctor :  
whats the point of hiding things and not getting a check done
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and sudenly something popping out?
User :   only reason i kept quiet is i dont have any other major problems and a fear
Doctor :  
so stop worrying about everything
Doctor :  
go step by step
Doctor :  
if you fear you will not get any answer but keep getting more confused
Doctor :  
now that a problem is come to you
Doctor :  
XXXXXXXXe to your baby's cystic hygroma
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it is recommened that you act fast atleast now.
Doctor :   in getting all the things necessary
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to avoid such complications later on
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in future
User :   Thanks Doctor Chandra Sekhar , I know i did a mistake by not going to Doctor till now but there are resons i dont want to judge with the reason also , Any way thanks fr hating with you and getting the necessary info
User :   i will go today itself
Doctor :  
good, Alapati
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i apperciate your initiative
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please gp ahead with the steps suggested
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and do not worry
Doctor :  
get the things checked and confirmed
User :   Which type of doctors i need visit
User :   first
Doctor :  
before you jump to any conclusions
Doctor :  
for your lesions on arm you can meet any physician
Doctor :  
or a general surgeon
Doctor :  
for karyotyping you need to go specific institutions where they are done and counseling provided
User :   sure
User :   Thanks and nice to chat with you thanks very much for providing the info and giving me right direction and confidence to go to a doctor
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